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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| skconqueror wrote: |
| Jesus changes things. In the old testament, God used men to fulfill his judgment against the wicked. |
So God makes murderers out of men to do a job He could do himself. Does God no longer need men to police his law?
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| You have given really good examples of this (congrats). The issue comes in the new testament (which you understandable give no examples ~except one that doesn't fit~). God sent his Son Jesus to atone for the sins of man. He also is the mediator (with the help of the Holy Spirit) to bridge the gap between God and man. |
He also came to fulfil the laws of the OT.
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Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgement, than for that city
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. |
That bridge seems to be built of fear, threats and ignorance. There are many examples of Jesus making threats and showing hatred and intolerance to others. God sent Jesus to put the willies up us. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| skconqueror wrote: |
| Jesus changes things. In the old testament, God used men to fulfill his judgment against the wicked. You have given really good examples of this (congrats). The issue comes in the new testament (which you understandable give no examples ~except one that doesn't fit~). God sent his Son Jesus to atone for the sins of man. He also is the mediator (with the help of the Holy Spirit) to bridge the gap between God and man. |
Is the Holy Spirit even in the Bible? Christians care more about Santa Claus more than that thing. I say the Holy Trinity should be changed to reflect the popular opinion.
By the way, the books of Peter are New Testament. And I think God would still be pissed about false prophets pretending to speak in his name. |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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What's the difference between this rejoicing here and some of the crap that spewed out of Falwell after 9/11? Are you going to say that it's okay because he deserved it? There's no difference. Being a liberal, I like to think that we aspire to be better and more mature than hatemongering conservatives, but the truth is, most of us are little better than the poo throwing right.
At least the head of the gay and lesbian alliance when asked about his feelings on the death of Falwell said that while he didn't like Falwell's ideas, his condolences went out to Falwell's family. That's class, a man who had a pretty good reason to verbally spit on his grave, instead went one better and showed some class. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| riley wrote: |
| Are you going to say that it's okay because he deserved it? |
Well... yes. Same way everyone will smiled at the death of Khomeini
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RACETRAITOR
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| riley wrote: |
| What's the difference between this rejoicing here and some of the crap that spewed out of Falwell after 9/11? Are you going to say that it's okay because he deserved it? |
No, but I will cite in the Bible where it says he deserved it. |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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twg wrote
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riley wrote:
Are you going to say that it's okay because he deserved it?
Well... yes. |
clarification please twg. My point you quoted was that people seem to believe that it's okay to trash the man and believe that it is positive to do that because he did the same things, like after 9/11. Do you agree with this?
If so, that does make you a hypocrite, because I don't see a difference. Falwell believed that his faith put him in the right and allowed him to pronounce moral judgements. That's the same problem I see from self pronounced liberals, who will not recognize their hypocricy. |
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BuHaoChi
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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twg
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Riley: The man was scum hiding behind a bible, and the world is better off without him
See, the problem is you and a few others are trying to turn this into some partisan point-scoring. You are propping up his death as a way to show your ideology as morally superior. You are the ones who are turning it into Left vs Right.
So, on the one hand, we got some people who are glad that a bad man has died. And on the other hand, we have a group of right-leaning guys who are using his corpse to bludgeon their ideological "foes" on a messageboard.
May I suggest, that before you boys keep tossing the "hypocrite" label around, it may be a good idea to not be one yourselves. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Hypocrisy Olympics 2007 |
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BuHaoChi
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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pdxsteve
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Bundang
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: FALWELL IS DEAD!!!!!! |
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| BuHaoChi wrote: |
Huzzah!
'Tis a great day indeed. |
If Falwell's in Heaven now, I never want to go there. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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You can say what you want about Falwell and his death. But, don't expect that if you do that other won't then say those things about someone you may have sensitivities for.
Just don't expect to be treated with kid gloves when you have blood on your hands.
cbc |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Another point of contention: What if we we were talking about a Muslim extremist?
Like when Zarqawi died and Rice so jubilantly declared: �We got�em!� was that an appropriate time to celebrate someone�s death? Should we have said: �I didn�t agree with Zarqawi�s ideas, but I sure feel sad for him because he can no longer enjoy the world?� What about Muhammad Dadullah, the recently deceased Taliban commander? After all, he was fighting for a religious cause he strongly believed in. Should we take a moment to consider his family and all his accomplishments? Or wait, let me guess: This is TOTALLY different, right??
Wrong. |
Zarqawi was a casualty of war. Falwell was not. |
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BuHaoChi
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm glad they're both dead.
Should I feel guilty about that?
Maybe.
But they'll never know.
And when I'm dead, I'll never know.
And anyway, they're both in heaven now, one with 72 virgins! |
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