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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| How did Scientology get its current legal status? Its one of the wackiest, weirdest "religions" out there. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| How did Scientology get its current legal status? Its one of the wackiest, weirdest "religions" out there. |
For a long, long time it was denied the non profit status accorded to churches. It basically sued and sued and sued. It sued the government, it sued the heads of the tax department, and so on. Eventually the government gave it tax exempt status in return for all the lawsuits to be dropped. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| How did Scientology get its current legal status? Its one of the wackiest, weirdest "religions" out there. |
For a long, long time it was denied the non profit status accorded to churches. It basically sued and sued and sued. It sued the government, it sued the heads of the tax department, and so on. Eventually the government gave it tax exempt status in return for all the lawsuits to be dropped. |
Thats just idiotic. Its a revolting "church". |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: |
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A shameless "pseudo" religion, Scientology can likely most accurately be described as a huge phony money sucking SATANTIC KULT.
Lest we be deceived 
Tom Cruise's Mom 'Dead' to Friends 
Friday, April 27, 2007
By Roger Friedman
Tom Cruise: Runaway Mom 'Dead' Now to Friends
It hasn't been a great week for Tom Cruise, PR-wise.
Perhaps inspired by Cruise's Scientology fundraiser in New York last week, both the Star and US Weekly are featuring Cruise and wife Katie Holmes on their covers. The subject of their stories: a possible divorce, brought about by Katie's frustrations with Scientology.
While Cruise should be worrying about what's left of his career, instead he seems to be digging his heels in deeper when it comes to his religious devotion. He doesn't seem to realize that a whole new generation now associates Cruise with Xenu, aliens and science fiction.
On top of this, word comes to us from Marco Island, Fla., where Tom's mom, Mary Lee Mapother, lived for nearly two decades until exactly a year ago.
As I've reported before, it was roughly a year ago that Tom's mother left her Florida home for Tom's Beverly Hills manse and never returned.
This was a shock to her longtime second husband, Jack South, who accompanied her on a trip to see new baby granddaughter Suri. After going west with Mary Lee, South went south and east.
He returned to Florida alone.
Since then, with perhaps one exception, Mary Lee Mapother has not once contacted her many friends in Marco Island.
"She just vanished," says a friend. "It's like there was a death."
Jack South, friends say, has been consoling himself with his children from his first marriage, and with friends who can commiserate with him.
What happened to these people sounds a lot like what happened to Holmes' former friends � including her "Dawson's Creek" castmates � when Holmes went out to be interviewed by Cruise in April 2005 for "Mission: Impossible 3" and never returned home. 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268977,00.html |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| How did Scientology get its current legal status? Its one of the wackiest, weirdest "religions" out there. |
Why does any religion merit special status?
Separation of Church and State?
cbc |
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| How did Scientology get its current legal status? Its one of the wackiest, weirdest "religions" out there. |
Why does any religion merit special status?
Separation of Church and State?
cbc |
I believe it has to do with being a non-profit entity. I read a great TIME article many years ago, Scientology: Cult of Greed. The writer detailed a hellstorm of problems that the Scientologists brought against him as he was working on the article.
Personally, the e-meter auditing doesn't sound that much different than the confession of the catholic Church, and I believe the Pope has brought about much more misery than L. Ron Hubbard ever has. Why, it's stance on contraception alone has doomed millions. |
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: |
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One of the greatest quotes on religion ever!
"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business."
Gov. Jesse 'The Body' Ventura |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| CasperTheFriendlyGhost wrote: |
| cbclark4 wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| How did Scientology get its current legal status? Its one of the wackiest, weirdest "religions" out there. |
Why does any religion merit special status?
Separation of Church and State?
cbc |
I believe it has to do with being a non-profit entity. I read a great TIME article many years ago, Scientology: Cult of Greed. The writer detailed a hellstorm of problems that the Scientologists brought against him as he was working on the article. |
Yeah, I think under American tax law it's simply treated as a kind of non-profit. Oddly, a church can lose non profit status if it actively campaigns for a political candidate. (They do this all the time, mind you, but no one really wants to enrage the voters stripping a mainline church of its tax free status.) |
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deadman
Joined: 27 May 2006
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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The more I read, the more I see L Ron was a complete liar and con man.
eg, from the Wikipedia entry on Hubbard:
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The accuracy of Hubbard's self-representations was also addressed in court in a 1984 judgment by Justice Latey, ruling[121] in the High court of London, stated in his judgment that Scientology is "dangerous, immoral, sinister and corrupt" and "has its real objective money and power for Mr. Hubbard".[1] Justice Latey also addressed Hubbard's representation of himself:
... he has made these, among other false claims:
That he was a much decorated war hero. He was not.
That he commanded a corvette squadron. He did not.
That he was awarded the Purple Heart, a gallantry decoration for those wounded in action. He was not wounded and was not decorated.
That he was crippled and blinded in the war and cured himself with Dianetic technique. He was not crippled and was not blinded.
That he was sent by U.S. Naval Intelligence to break up a black magic ring in California. He was not. He was himself a member of that occult group and practiced ritual sexual magic in it.
That he was a graduate of George Washington University and an atomic physicist. The facts are that he completed only one year of college and failed the one course on nuclear physics in which he enrolled.
There is no dispute about any of this. The evidence is unchallenged.[1]
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And all that Scient-o-logical mental manipulation and psychobabble seems much more sinister in light of the following from Wiki:
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One controversial aspect of Hubbard's early life revolves around his association with Jack Parsons, an aeronautics professor at Caltech and an associate of the British occultist Aleister Crowley.
Hubbard and Parsons were allegedly engaged in the practice of ritual magick in 1946, including an extended set of sex magick rituals called the Babalon Working, intended to summon a goddess or "moonchild." The Church insists Hubbard was a US government intelligence agent on a mission to end Parsons' magickal activities and to "rescue" a girl Parsons was "using" for magickal purposes. In a 1952 lecture series, Hubbard recommended a book of Crowley's and referred to him as "Mad Old Boy"[106][107] and as "my very good friend".[108]. Hubbard later married the girl he said that he rescued from Parsons, Sara Northrup. [109] Crowley recorded in his notes that he considered Hubbard a "lout" who made off with Parsons' money and girlfriend in an "ordinary confidence trick".[7][1] |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| yeah, they are wackjobs. but what religion isn't? the ones that eat 2,000 year old flesh? the ones that look forward to the end of this world? the one's who believe that there will be a final judgement and everyone who ever lived will be rejoined body and soul? yes, all the dead who ever died will be magically reassembled and reanimated only for the majority of them to be cast into hell for all eternity. wackjobs all. |
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