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Would you support a union that excluded illegal teachers?
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Would you support such a union?
Yes
83%
 83%  [ 47 ]
No
12%
 12%  [ 7 ]
Just those with fake degrees
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 56

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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Would you support a union that excluded illegal teachers? Reply with quote

Well would you?

(illegal refers to those who teach privates as well as fake degrees.
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

u can still be illegal and not have a fake degree
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While an illegal teacher with no degree can't claim status as a teacher (and wouldn't legally be able to benefit from legal benefits), a legal teacher with a real degree that does privates is a different story. A teacher doing privates wouldn't be detectable if they are playing their cards right.
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kingtout



Joined: 03 May 2007
Location: ROK...again...

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you support a union that excluded illegal teachers Reply with quote

The_Conservative wrote:
Well would you?

(illegal refers to those who teach privates as well as fake degrees.


I don't think I would remotely consider joining an association that would even contemplate helping criminals that end up dragging our reputations through the mud, not to mention drive teachers' wages down.

I also don't think I'd want someone in charge that obviously doesn't understand basic ethics, nor economics.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you supported a union (meaning you are a member) then you are illegal and can be deported.
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's Hoffa when you need him? Confused
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimmy? He's actually under the north end zone at Taylor Field in Regina, Saskatchewan....
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handimom



Joined: 22 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would support an association of teachers.

I would not support a union that solicited and protected teachers acting illegally under existing law. That sort of thing doesn't make sense - legally or ethically.

I would however support an association whose purpose including promoting the legalization of teaching private students while on an E-2 visa and included changing regulations to come in to line with law. I think the industry aind immigration regulations needs to change.

I would also support an association that proposed to defend the rights of the accused. (Because a person is not guilty until proven to be guilty.

If the association or union defends people who admit to doing something illegal, I think that would be a waste of membership funds.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illegal teachers are a big part of the problem here in Korea. They keep our salaries down and lower the bar to the floor, and maybe even into the basement. Rolling Eyes
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question is a bit handicapped imo; it's like asking "would you support a union that excluded scabs?" Shocked
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a legit question.
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TheBrain



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Acme Lab

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares about illegal teachers?
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not me Wink
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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokki1 wrote:
Question is a bit handicapped imo; it's like asking "would you support a union that excluded scabs?" Shocked


Nope. Illegal does not ONLY refer to those with fake degrees. Those who teach privates or engage in other activities not covered by their visa are also included.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Conservative wrote:
Tokki1 wrote:
Question is a bit handicapped imo; it's like asking "would you support a union that excluded scabs?" Shocked


Nope. Illegal does not ONLY refer to those with fake degrees. Those who teach privates or engage in other activities not covered by their visa are also included.


I agree. Any one who gets caught doing illegal activity should not be supported.

Why should any union support someone who's committed crime and got busted.

If you're not discrete and stupid enough to get caught teaching privates or any other illegal activity, then you deserve the hefty fine and deportation.
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