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Would you turn someone in to the authorities if you: |
suspected them of teaching illegally, but didn't have direct evidence? |
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suspected them of teaching illegally and had someone else's word for it? |
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knew they were teaching illegally even though you also knew that they didn't realize they were breaking the law? |
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knew they were teaching illegally and were aware of it, but also knew they were dealing with a serious hardship of some sort? |
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knew they were teaching illegally and they were aware and didn't care? |
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knew they were teaching LEGALLY, but were engaging in other activities outside of their visa such as public performances? |
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All of the above. |
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No Way! |
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I'm not sure. |
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Other ... see my post below. |
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PhD
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: Informers |
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I understand while that topic was locked, but there was an important point made on the issue of informers.
That there are informers is not in doubt. Who they are can be illusive. As a result, I think we all need to be aware and cautious.
People who inform to the "authorities" do so for a number of reasons. AND I think that the reason is important in the value of the act.
Malicious intent,
revenge,
to bolster one's self-worth,
civic duty,
greed,
desparation
are just a few reasons why a person might act as an informer.
The problem is that here in Korea, an informer can really hurt someone who is innocent because once accused here, it appears that it doesn't matter if you are guilty or innocent. You will be judged. You will lose your reputation.,
You may be fired, fined or deported, just on the strength of the accusation.
SO, for my part, if I saw an act of murder or rape, or something that was harming another human being, I would NOT hesitate to call the cops. BUT if I suspected another person of teaching illegally, I guess it would take an awful lot of clear evidence for me to even consider turning them over to the authorities.
How about you? |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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"Informer!!
You know say daddy me snow me-a (gonna) blame
A licky boom-boom down
'Tective man he say, say Daddy Me Snow me stab someone down the lane
A licky boom-boom down" |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for informing me that Snow existed. I somehow had forgotten. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I would never inform unless I had witnessed someone commit a real crime. Teaching illegaly whilst against the law doesn't hurt anyone. |
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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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djsmnc wrote: |
"Informer!!
(etc.)
A licky boom-boom down
(etc.)
A licky boom-boom down" |
Dude. Thanks for clearing that up for me. All these years I always thought he was saying "shpalinkie foom foom dweeyah." How embarrassing.
Re the OP: Nah, I gave up ratting folks out. What's the point? I tried to get Immie to banish the Itaweon Burger King Doomsday Warbler like four times, and he's still there. |
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Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007 Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm ratting Snow out for licking his boom boom down.  |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Location: Nearly in NK
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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I was sharing an apartment, supplied be my employer. The first time I came home and smelled weed, I told myself it was my imagination. The second time I knew it wasn't my imagination. The sob was also on a tourist visa.
I gave the sob a choice and a promise that if I smelled it again I would rat him out for illegal teaching, if he gave me any static it would be for the pot. Does the "name" TJ ring any bells?
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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I had no idea we could create so many options as this on a poll.
Last edited by Gopher on Tue May 22, 2007 6:23 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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I have no problem with people teaching illegally. My problem is crappy teachers. If there were a REALLY crappy teacher who was here illegally, i'd probably a) tell them to leave b) warn them to leave and that's it.
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I would never inform unless I had witnessed someone commit a real crime. |
Exactly. There is NO civic duty involved in reporting illegal teachers; unless korea really IS that effed up.
All I can hope is that these "informers" also have the balls to try and prosecute people they see beating the crap out of their girlfriends in public; reporting the existence of boshintang restaurants and chasing people down who run red lights.
As for contrarian's sitch I'da handled it the exact same way. Incriminating me ain't something I'm down with.....now |
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faster

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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I might squeal on someone teaching without a degree, but I'd also have to strongly dislike the person and consider her a bad teacher. |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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I chose "other";
Got really sick of someone's bull and wanted to get them the hell away from me.
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Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007 Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not and have never been a rat.
Illegal teachers don't put my livelihood at risk.  |
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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twg wrote: |
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Would you turn someone in to the authorities if you |
I chose "other";
Got really sick of someone's bull and wanted to get them the hell away from me.
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Yep, was pretty close to doint that myself one time.
Also, if they paid me a million won per snitch, I'd sing like a bird. (About the drunk jerk boasting about it at the bar, never friends of course) |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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I've known people who break all those rules, plus drug charges/other crimes.
The only reason to turn someone in is spite really. Other than that, who cares? |
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Informers are the lowest form of scum. It's one thing to cooperate with an investigation, but it's quite another to try and get someone busted.
If you have a problem with someone, handle it like a man (or woman) and not a rat.
The Italian "organizations" have it right when it comes to informants.
Usually, informants are people that have their own skeletons.. |
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