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togoastray



Joined: 27 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: He's a criminal Reply with quote

What percentage of English teachers here do you think have some sort of criminal record, even small misdemeanors?
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESL teachers pulling numbers out of their asses....


I'll go first.

Since some jobs require background checks and since ESL teachers are a cross-section of the general population, I'd say about the same percentage as people in their home countries, if not slightly less.
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost



Joined: 28 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would anyone possibly care? I'd be more interested in what percentage have maimed or killed someone. What percentage have committed incest or beatiality? Some guy got ticket for jaywalking or having a glass bottle on a beach -- who cares?
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dutchy pink



Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as a fan of fiction, I'll tell a little story.
It was a nondescript night, like so many others, sleeping on rooftops, behind abandon buildings, playgrounds, parks, alleyways, doorstops, bus stations, benches, verandas, rooftops.... an old friend Georgio Popov arrived, they embraced. hours late, a few flags came down, 1 being the American, the other a State flag. shortly after, compadre fell off the rooftop. blood everywhere, 4 stories up, no movement, helicopters arrive, someone gets arrested. Attempted murder they say. said man is in a coma, said arestee is in jail. said man says this is crazy!!! judges don't care. Attempted murder they say. I hope he dies, then it will be murder, they say. said man spends 2 weeks in jail, attempted murder charges hanging. 2 weeks later, other said man comes out of the coma, and says, What....? that's my friend. I fell. "oh, sorry for the inconvience," judge says. Said man goes to a travel agent, "how much are flights to korea?"
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An even better question is:

How many Korean people would have a criminal record if even 1% of the laws here were enforced?
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darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only been caught on Breach of Liquor Ban. But if you take a cold sober look on the things you've probly done in the past (usually drunk). It's amazing how much of a criminal you probly are. Even just kicking over a rubbish bin on the way home from the pub - Disturbing the Peace and Wilfull Damage right there.
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Since some jobs require background checks and since ESL teachers are a cross-section of the general population


Hmm.

Well ESL teachers have degrees. Maybe a few sneaky bastards don't, but hopefully they'll get deported and that will stop happening. But assuming %95 of ESL teachers have degrees, I wouldn't say they were representative of the general population.

Not everyone went to university for four years. In fact, most people didn't.

There are a whole other set of statistics here in Canada for post-graduates, and according to some recent statistics, there is a far less occurance of criminal records in the post-grad population. Not to say it doesn't happen, but it's far from being representative.

I bet there are proportionately a lot less degrees floating around in the general population of the United States than here in Canada as well.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school district tried to hire a gyopo who had two convictions for narcotics in Canada. The application got rejected by immigration. There are some sort of checks in place.

Oh well, it's not just Korea. When I was a student in Canada I worked part-time as a security guard for a while. My company was so desperate for warm bodies they hired one young guy and put him on the beat before even processing his paperwork. It turned out he had done prison time for armed robbery in Alberta, along with narcotics convictions. The sad part is that he was one of the most enthusiastic employees the company had, having reached the most prestigious job he'd ever get. He once told me 'if I wasn't workin' I'd just be hangin' out at mall anyways but now I'm getting paid to do this; this is great!'.
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: He's a criminal Reply with quote

togoastray wrote:
What percentage of English teachers here do you think have some sort of criminal record, even small misdemeanors?


You might want to define small misdemeanor... I mean a speeding ticket is a misdemeanor..

So in this instance I would say 99.9% have a misdemeanor...
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: He's a criminal Reply with quote

mehamrick wrote:


So in this instance I would say 99.9% have a misdemeanor...


I guess I'm in the %0.01 Smile I've only ever got a warning for speeding. That's it.
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: He's a criminal Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
mehamrick wrote:


So in this instance I would say 99.9% have a misdemeanor...


I guess I'm in the %0.01 Smile I've only ever got a warning for speeding. That's it.


Was it a verbal or written warning? If written then you technically have a record. Keep in mind he did not say convicted.

My figure might be a little off but I would guess to say its no less than 99.5%
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laconic2



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Wonderful World of ESL

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: He's a criminal Reply with quote

mehamrick wrote:
togoastray wrote:
What percentage of English teachers here do you think have some sort of criminal record, even small misdemeanors?


You might want to define small misdemeanor... I mean a speeding ticket is a misdemeanor..

So in this instance I would say 99.9% have a misdemeanor...


In the U.S., the average speeding ticket is not a misdemeanor offense. It is a traffic law infraction:

http://www.osbar.org/public/legalinfo/1272.htm
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Bondrock



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does it count if you had your record expunged and were given a sealed pardon for performing covert operations for CSIS while posing as an English educator in Asia?











just wondering out loud...
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Re: He's a criminal Reply with quote

laconic2 wrote:
mehamrick wrote:
togoastray wrote:
What percentage of English teachers here do you think have some sort of criminal record, even small misdemeanors?


You might want to define small misdemeanor... I mean a speeding ticket is a misdemeanor..

So in this instance I would say 99.9% have a misdemeanor...


In the U.S., the average speeding ticket is not a misdemeanor offense. It is a traffic law infraction:

http://www.osbar.org/public/legalinfo/1272.htm


I see what your saying but IMHO still a misdemeanor (under the definition of a misdemeanor). You can go to jail for it (try not signing it, or not paying it). And again it will depend on what state your in and if your talking about city county or state tickets. And if it is a court of record or not. But that is a whole other topic... and leagal jargon and case law.. Very Happy Razz
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Masta_Don



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: He's a criminal Reply with quote

mehamrick wrote:
laconic2 wrote:
mehamrick wrote:
togoastray wrote:
What percentage of English teachers here do you think have some sort of criminal record, even small misdemeanors?


You might want to define small misdemeanor... I mean a speeding ticket is a misdemeanor..

So in this instance I would say 99.9% have a misdemeanor...


In the U.S., the average speeding ticket is not a misdemeanor offense. It is a traffic law infraction:

http://www.osbar.org/public/legalinfo/1272.htm


I see what your saying but IMHO still a misdemeanor (under the definition of a misdemeanor). You can go to jail for it (try not signing it, or not paying it). And again it will depend on what state your in and if your talking about city county or state tickets. And if it is a court of record or not. But that is a whole other topic... and leagal jargon and case law.. Very Happy Razz


It's not a misdemeanor. Failing to comply with an officer's instructions, like not signing or not doing your community service, is another crime all together.

That's why I didn't go to jail for getting three speeding tickets, but for breaking my probation.
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