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desperation
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Those who know, won't say and those who say, don't know. Welcome to Dave's !
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 Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: MEDICAL / DRUG TEST for PUBLIC SCHOOL |
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My recruiter sent me a crazy form to fill in and have a doctor fill in. It had a box for gynecology, eyes, x-rays....I wrote to her and said that I have no idea what goes into these boxes to please the authorities neither will any of all the doctorSss I'd have to see to hit all the specialties mentioned. She then replied and told me all I'd need....wait, you should see her words,
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For the medical check, it�s not necessary to be full check up.
You should do the blood test, but x-ray is not necessary if you haven�t had any problem with your lungs in the past..
Otherwise, try to get a note from a doctor that you have no problem to work in overseas as a teacher simply and try to get it do in Korea once again when you get the medical insurance. The cost of check is only US$ 30 for all of checking.
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And I'm like, uh I don't think so lady....so she responded.... she tells me even more vagueness and a little distraction story. Can somebody clear this up for me. I find it exceedingly hard to believe the legions of Canadians here passed any sort of drug test at all [note the placement of the word BECAUSE in her reply below]. A full medical shabang could run me into the thousands this is NY and I'm uninsured. Shots, tests, x-rays thats HUNDREDS of dollars each.
MY 3rd ATTEMPT: In regard to the medical stuff. What blood tests should I do and why? And what should I get on top of that? Just a note saying I can teach overseas? That's kinda strange. Am I going to have to do some visa run drama once I get there if somebody doesn't think I'm tested enough?
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Work at public school, it means you are hired by Korea Education
Department as a public school teacher and the blood test is necessary
because all Korean Teachers also do to report that they don't take any
useless drugs and have no problem with their body condition. As you can
understand a working system in US, my best friend is from NY, US and she is a history high school teacher in NY, US. She also is working in Korea at the moment but will be back to US by end of August. According to what she said, they also do the medical check and criminal check to be employed as a public school teacher. What I mean is, it's the step what you have to do for the employment. |
This is so annoying. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: |
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You need to:
Take a basic physical and get the doctor to give you a note stating you are healthy (have no serious diseases for example).
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Take a blood test for drugs.
Have all this information sent to the public school or the place that is hiring you.
Simple enough. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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It cost me 28 US.
The exam is a joke.
Psych profile. Doc says, "Are you crazy?" "No." Tick.
"Any problems pooping?" "No, I eat kimchi." Tick.
"Heart ok?" "Yup." Tick.
"How are your teeth?" "Good." Tick.
Blood test. Easy.
Pee test. Litmus strip, toilet is around the corner to your right.
Height weight standard.
Print the forms. There should be two. One for you two fill out, and one for the doctor. (Ah....just remembered something. At the hospital, they made a mess of my form, but fortunately I had in on my yahoo account and we could reprint it. Perhaps it would help to have a digital copy too.)
Get a Korean who speaks English to go with you.
It's not a big deal. |
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desperation
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Those who know, won't say and those who say, don't know. Welcome to Dave's !
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: |
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What are they testing you for and when do the various things need to be done? Poet says in Korea, recruiter insists its in American AND korea.
I need to know how to conduct myself so I don't NOT get the stuff done that I need, and so that I do not do things that might exclude me as well. Ya dig? |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Get another recruiter. That's silly. Two medicals? They want a Korean medical cause they aren't going to recognize the american one.... |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| The only thing taht will exclude you might be life threatening illnesses....and drugs. Illness you can't do anything about. Drugs you can. |
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desperation
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Those who know, won't say and those who say, don't know. Welcome to Dave's !
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| The only thing taht will exclude you might be life threatening illnesses....and drugs. Illness you can't do anything about. Drugs you can. |
Well illness can be screen out before I fork over $1000 to get there that won't be reimbursed. Wish I knew what it was they were looking for. In taiwan they tested for very specific things and it was very well known what they were, even which drugs they tested you for (God forbid you're Canadian, you might actually care). But here in Korea, everybody is vague, nobody has a concrete gov't link. These are not abnormal questions I'm asking and I would certainly think there would be a sticky about it but I found none. I don;t particularly like the tone of the responses I get from recruiters. It is very vague and I see nothing particularly clear nor definitive on Dave's either. That's pretty disturbing to somebody as responsible and dilligent as myself. If I have skin cancer for example, is that a reason to be fired or not hired? GAWD! |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Skin cancer? Maybe. I would bet they (EDIT) DON'T want someone coming over here and becoming a burden on their health care system.
I wouldn't worry about the tone of the replies you get. They are having a hard enough time simply getting the English out. And she's right. It's just the next step. Koreans can be very forward about some things. Oh, and medical privacy? Forget about it. Your medical file will likely be office gossip. |
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desperation
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Those who know, won't say and those who say, don't know. Welcome to Dave's !
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Skin cancer? Maybe. I would bet they (EDIT) DON'T want someone coming over here and becoming a burden on their health care system.
I wouldn't worry about the tone of the replies you get. They are having a hard enough time simply getting the English out. And she's right. It's just the next step. Koreans can be very forward about some things. Oh, and medical privacy? Forget about it. Your medical file will likely be office gossip. |
I'd bet they do and don't test for certain things too, but this is not a game. This is my life and my money and selling my car or not, etc. SO again, I need legit sources for solid info so that I may conduct myself accordingly. I don't trust recruiters or third hand gossip. There's too much at stake unfortunately. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I tried.... Good luck. |
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desperation
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Those who know, won't say and those who say, don't know. Welcome to Dave's !
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I tried.... Good luck. |
I appreciate it for sure, but my booty is on the line. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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If it's for a public school get a form from the recruiter. There should be a standard form for your specific city/county. Then go to the doctor and have them fill it out.
I wouldn't worry about all the exams. I had mine done (in Korea) with a standard form from Jeollanam-do. It had places for liver exam, stomach exam, nervous system exam, vaccinations, etc. The doctor told me that it'd cost a lot of money to have these done, so he just asked me "How's your stomach?" "how's your liver?" "are you sick?" etc., and he checked the appropriate boxes. If you're doing it in the US you can just visit a general practitioner and have them fill it out. The only things (from my experience) that you'd really need are a blood test and the proper vaccinations (hepatitus, tetanus [sp?], and so forth).
Besides, they'll give you a free check-up at some point during the school year. I just had mine, and aside from the ghettoness of the process (I live in the boonies) there was no problem.
Anyway, get a form from the recruiter and take it from there. |
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Fresh Prince
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
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I appreciate it for sure, but my booty is on the line. |
They want you to get the test before you come to Korea so that you and they know whether you will get disqualified before you sell everything and fly across the world and so they don't lose time and money hiring someone that will disqualify. The one that you get in Korea will be the legitimate one that they go by but if you find out whether you pass before you make the move, you won't have anything to worry about.
In order of most expensive medical testing facilities to rule out diseases or serious medical conditions, to least expensive in the U.S.:
1. Hospitals
2. Doctor's office: If you can find one that will "be accepting new patients," when you tell them you don't have insurance.
3. Non-hospital affiliated emergency care clinics.
4. Free clinics: usually are anonymous and provide testing for chronic diseases. |
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kat2
Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| I don't usually give advice to be illegal, but could you just forge a doc's signature on the one you are supposed to have in the US and send it over. Then have a thorough checkup in korea once you get insured here? The cost of a physical in the states is usually at least 500 bucks uninsured. Thats certainly not worth it. You know if you are healthy or not. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| You know if you are healthy or not. |
Wow.....most of the time you do...but many people carry communicable diseases and have no clue about it for a long time....
As for forging a medical document as your first act to get a job here....not exactly a good idea.
What if they want to contact the doctor? |
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