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Cho's family not helping with mental records?

 
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charlieDD



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Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Cho's family not helping with mental records? Reply with quote

Was reading today that the panel headed up by Tom Ridge to investigate the Virginia Tech massacre would like very much to have Cho's mental health care and psychiatric / counseling records, but can't get them because of privacy laws and rules that prevent VT from sharing them.

However, it was noted, the family of Cho could have the records any time they wanted them.

There seemed to be a "hint, hint" in this statement, as in . . the family, if they really wanted to be cooperative and helpful, could simply get the records and turn them over to the investigators, but they haven't.

So, . . they go into hiding after the massacre. They issue a cold, unfeeling statement written by an expensive, out-of-state lawyer i which they ask people to have sympathy on them for the pain they are enduring ( i.e. "we are the victims"). They remain in hiding; not a single additional word out of them; not a single image. And now we hear that they are doing little to help the investigators establish what made their killer son tick.


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The_Conservative



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Cho's family not helping with mental records? Reply with quote

charlieDD wrote:
Was reading today that the panel headed up by Tom Ridge to investigate the Virginia Tech massacre would like very much to have Cho's mental health care and psychiatric / counseling records, but can't get them because of privacy laws and rules that prevent VT from sharing them.

However, it was noted, the family of Cho could have the records any time they wanted them.

There seemed to be a "hint, hint" in this statement, as in . . the family, if they really wanted to be cooperative and helpful, could simply get the records and turn them over to the investigators, but they haven't.

So, . . they go into hiding after the massacre. They issue a cold, unfeeling statement written by an expensive, out-of-state lawyer i which they ask people to have sympathy on them for the pain they are enduring ( i.e. "we are the victims"). They remain in hiding; not a single additional word out of them; not a single image. And now we hear that they are doing little to help the investigators establish what made their killer son tick.

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Maybe they just want to be alone after the death of their son and the circumstances he died under?

I doubt that anyone in their situation would feel like being open and "cooperative". They probably just want it to be over. I would, and I think most people would were we in their shoes.

Maybe they don't want the media getting hold of these records and stirring the pot all over again?


And YOU call THEM "cold and unfeeling"?
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Nicco61



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best thing they could do is hire a lawyer, speak through him, (as little as possible) and comply with the law.

I would never voluntarily provide anything of my own free will. However I would comply with any subpeonas etc. There are legal avenues the authorities can take to obtain relevant documents.
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charlieDD



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Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Cho's family not helping with mental records? Reply with quote

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Maybe they just want to be alone after the death of their son and the circumstances he died under?I doubt that anyone in their situation would feel like being open and "cooperative". They probably just want it to be over. I would, and I think most people would were we in their shoes.
Maybe they don't want the media getting hold of these records and stirring the pot all over again? And YOU call THEM "cold and unfeeling"?[/quote]
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CharlieDD: [size=18]Or maybe you're saying that it is understandable they would want the whole thing to just go away and would probably fear the records being made public . . . . . This goes back to what must have been one of the main contributing factors to the whole mess to start with: the family avoiding embarrassment, stigma . . . at the cost of the lives of so many others. The panel wants the records so it can analyze what caused and allowed this massacre to take place, so they can make recommendations that might go a long way toward preventing it happening again at another school. If the Cho's want to protect their privacy and avoid whatever embarrassing details may come out from the records . . . then they are repeating the same behavior that contributed to the loss of so many lives and demonstrating the same selfishness that their cold and "we are the victims" statement (released after several days of careful legal preparation) I believe revealed about them.

Cold and unfeeling am I? If so, then my coldness is reserved for those who deserve to feel it. My warmth is plenty for those who truly suffered.

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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Cho's family not helping with mental records? Reply with quote

charlieDD wrote:
Was reading today that the panel headed up by Tom Ridge to investigate the Virginia Tech massacre would like very much to have Cho's mental health care and psychiatric / counseling records, but can't get them because of privacy laws and rules that prevent VT from sharing them.

However, it was noted, the family of Cho could have the records any time they wanted them.

There seemed to be a "hint, hint" in this statement, as in . . the family, if they really wanted to be cooperative and helpful, could simply get the records and turn them over to the investigators, but they haven't.

So, . . they go into hiding after the massacre. They issue a cold, unfeeling statement written by an expensive, out-of-state lawyer i which they ask people to have sympathy on them for the pain they are enduring ( i.e. "we are the victims"). They remain in hiding; not a single additional word out of them; not a single image. And now we hear that they are doing little to help the investigators establish what made their killer son tick.

I think there's more to this family than meets the eye.

A side note: How about that series of appearances on one of the American broadcast television morning shows of this . . uh, . . Yul Kwon? . . (the Korean dude who won the "SURVIVOR" show recently). He's on talking about how hard it is to grow up as an Asian in America. . . . My read on it: A hastily arranged feature to shift the blame off the Korean family and onto American culture. . . . . Again, I think there's more to this family than meets the eye.

{{ Kind of ironic though that a guy like that, who has benefitted and succeeded greatly in America as an Asian-American, should be the one telling how difficult it is to grow up Asian in America. Yeah, real difficult.}}


Well, they haven't met my eyes, but I'm with you all the way. I think that family is cowardly, rotten, unfeeling, indifferent and extremely selfish. They get no sympathy from me as they do not deserve any sympathy whatsoever. I am concerned about the harm Cho caused to so many people. That harm is ongoing! It didn't end the moment he stopped pulling the trigger.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Cho's family not helping with mental records? Reply with quote

Vicissitude wrote:


Well, they haven't met my eyes, but I'm with you all the way. I think that family is cowardly, rotten, unfeeling, indifferent and extremely selfish. They get no sympathy from me as they do not deserve any sympathy whatsoever. I am concerned about the harm Cho caused to so many people. That harm is ongoing! It didn't end the moment he stopped pulling the trigger.


Well, I don't know the family in person, either. I think, however, if they really went out of their way to make sure he was treated then they would feel there would be no problem in turning over the records if they exist.
It seems clear, for whatever reason, that they feel it is not good for them to release the records. I think both his family and officials let people down when it comes to making sure he didn't pose the threat that he did to society.
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