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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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 Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: Ron Paul at 0% |
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http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27598
Well sure looks like he is going to win.
As I said before I think he ought to run as a third party Candidate. If he does I am going to send him money.
I hope the Republicans have the good sense to keep him in the debates.
I hope he gets just enough support so that he runs as a third party candidate. |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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If you are so bent on ragging on Ron Paul, pray tell....
who in the hell is a better candidate? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Ron Paul at 0% |
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Ron Paul doesn't have a chance. The media hates him. They won't even recognize him.
Most of the election stuff is all about Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Guiliani, McCain.. and the the latest media darling - Mitt Romney.
Ron Paul should open up debate.. but all debate seems to be shut as far as the media is concerned. They want a status quo candidate. Both the leading Republicans and leading Democrats represent typical status quo. There might be 20 candidates running, but only a small selected handful are chosen by the Media to be representative of running.
Ron Paul frankly doesn't seriously exist as a candidate unless the media recognize him, and they don't and won't.
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
I hope the Republicans have the good sense to keep him in the debates.
I hope he gets just enough support so that he runs as a third party candidate. |
I hope so too. But you do know that Ron Paul WON'T attract democrat voters who are interested in democrat ideas.
He is a far right candidate who doesn't represent ANY ideas whatsoever of the left except for thinking Bush's policies aren't effective. Other than that, he is the complete opposite of the Democrats on guns, abortion, how government is run, immigration, etc., almost every single issue. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:44 am Post subject: Re: Ron Paul at 0% |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
Ron Paul doesn't have a chance. The media hates him. They won't even recognize him.
Most of the election stuff is all about Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Guiliani, McCain.. and the the latest media darling - Mitt Romney.
Ron Paul should open up debate.. but all debate seems to be shut as far as the media is concerned. They want a status quo candidate. Both the leading Republicans and leading Democrats represent typical status quo. There might be 20 candidates running, but only a small selected handful are chosen by the Media to be representative of running.
Ron Paul frankly doesn't seriously exist as a candidate unless the media recognize him, and they don't and won't.
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
I hope the Republicans have the good sense to keep him in the debates.
I hope he gets just enough support so that he runs as a third party candidate. |
I hope so too. But you do know that Ron Paul WON'T attract democrat voters who are interested in democrat ideas.
He is a far right candidate who doesn't represent ANY ideas whatsoever of the left except for thinking Bush's policies aren't effective. Other than that, he is the complete opposite of the Democrats on guns, abortion, how government is run, immigration, etc., almost every single issue. |
I don't know if this counts for much, but he has the most subscribers on Youtube and he is gaining a lot of grassroot support. We still have a long way to go and I wouldn't count him out yet.
Many like James Dobson, Chuck Colson and others haven't given their endorsements yet. If James endorses Ron Paul, that's good for 5 to 10 percent of the vote. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: Re: Ron Paul at 0% |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
I don't know if this counts for much, but he has the most subscribers on Youtube and he is gaining a lot of grassroot support. We still have a long way to go and I wouldn't count him out yet.
Many like James Dobson, Chuck Colson and others haven't given their endorsements yet. If James endorses Ron Paul, that's good for 5 to 10 percent of the vote. |
I'm a big online supporter of Ron Paul. Not because of his many many right-wing ideas, but mainly because of foreign policy. I also like his ideas that the Federal government shouldn't be so involved in every aspect of our personal lives and everyone else's in the world. The states individually should deal with their constituency's own issues without Federal involvement. I also like his ideas that foreign countries are to trade with, not to go to war with and become entangled with their domestic affairs.
Joo Rip seems to think of Ron Paul as a left-wing candidate. Nothing can be further from the truth. Most left-wingers will go nowhere near him if they are serious about liberal or democratic ideas. He doesn't reflect their ideals whatsoever in any way whatsoever.
The other mass supporters are many of those hardcore school of Republicans who seriously believe in limited Federal government (also not a Democratic idea). It is essentially a hardcore Right-wing Republican idea that mainstream Republicans have went the opposite extreme with their ideas of having incredibly large bureaucratic and militaristic operations around the world. But oldschool Republican (pointed out very clearly and articulately by Ron Paul) is NOT about that whatsoever. They are about limited government.
Through Ron Paul, I've actually been able to understand a very fundamental Republican ideal for the first time. Now I finally understand where this 'limited government' and 'we're not big spenders' ideas come from - hard to see with the Bush Administration who is spending every dime he can possibly find to send to his favorite city in the world - Baghdad. |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: |
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The thing that resonates with me is the fact that RP has a very conservative mindset, yet he is much more likely to give people the freedoms to do as they wish than any lefty liberal.
I like the fact that he doesnt take his personal morals and try to apply them to 300 million people, unlike every other single politician.
I like that he believes in personal freedom and responsibility. |
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Saxiif
Joined: 15 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:55 am Post subject: |
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Libertarians are MASSIVELY overrepresented on the internet compared to pretty much another other political viewpoint (with commies putting in a close second).
Any appearance of grassroots support for Ron Paul is just the standard large libertarian presence of the internet. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: Re: Ron Paul at 0% |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| fiveeagles wrote: |
I don't know if this counts for much, but he has the most subscribers on Youtube and he is gaining a lot of grassroot support. We still have a long way to go and I wouldn't count him out yet.
Many like James Dobson, Chuck Colson and others haven't given their endorsements yet. If James endorses Ron Paul, that's good for 5 to 10 percent of the vote. |
I'm a big online supporter of Ron Paul. Not because of his many many right-wing ideas, but mainly because of foreign policy. I also like his ideas that the Federal government shouldn't be so involved in every aspect of our personal lives and everyone else's in the world. The states individually should deal with their constituency's own issues without Federal involvement. I also like his ideas that foreign countries are to trade with, not to go to war with and become entangled with their domestic affairs.
Joo Rip seems to think of Ron Paul as a left-wing candidate. Nothing can be further from the truth. Most left-wingers will go nowhere near him if they are serious about liberal or democratic ideas. He doesn't reflect their ideals whatsoever in any way whatsoever.
The other mass supporters are many of those hardcore school of Republicans who seriously believe in limited Federal government (also not a Democratic idea). It is essentially a hardcore Right-wing Republican idea that mainstream Republicans have went the opposite extreme with their ideas of having incredibly large bureaucratic and militaristic operations around the world. But oldschool Republican (pointed out very clearly and articulately by Ron Paul) is NOT about that whatsoever. They are about limited government.
Through Ron Paul, I've actually been able to understand a very fundamental Republican ideal for the first time. Now I finally understand where this 'limited government' and 'we're not big spenders' ideas come from - hard to see with the Bush Administration who is spending every dime he can possibly find to send to his favorite city in the world - Baghdad. |
The left wing and the right wing agree on a lot. I don' think he is a left wing candidate - not that it matters. He is a radical populist candidate, who has seems to have no dog in the war on terror instead he is turning his guns on the US govt, who he resents more than Al Qaeda. He is an ideolog and a demagogue and one who is loyal to his agenda , rather than his nation.
I wish his supporters would define what they mean by "non intervention."
As I said I hope he runs as a third party candidate. If he does I will send him money to keep him competetive.
The US is at war now cause a war was declared against the US a while ago - well before 9-11. The US just didn't know what was really going on.
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ontheway
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Joo wrote:"
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27598
"Well sure looks like he is going to win.
As I said before I think he ought to run as a third party Candidate. If he does I am going to send him money."
Since Ron Paul has been ignored by the media and his only exposure to date was one debate, held just days before the poll, it would be quite unlikely that he would register in the poll. Having worked for a telemarketing company myself, I am also aware that it is probable that the telemarketers didn't actually list all the candidates when asking the questions. They get paid for completed surveys and have no real interest in the accuracy being presented here by the survey managers, who do not observe the actual phone calls.
But I do agree with one thing. I do hope he runs in the general election on the Libertarian Party ticket. I, too, will send him a donation: $2300. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| ChimpumCallao wrote: |
If you are so bent on ragging on Ron Paul, pray tell....
who in the hell is a better candidate? |
Any of the Repubicans and in fact just about any of the Democrats.
I still hope he runs as a third party candidate , and here's hoping that Nader decides to run as well. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| Saxiif wrote: |
Libertarians are MASSIVELY overrepresented on the internet compared to pretty much another other political viewpoint (with commies putting in a close second).
Any appearance of grassroots support for Ron Paul is just the standard large libertarian presence of the internet. |
Precisely. Well-said. But this is one of the best reasons to come here: to listen to these people talk and see how the-world-according-to-them looks.
Like going into the field to make observations. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Just saw him on the Daily Show today. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| Just saw him on the Daily Show today. |
How was it? I'll have to youtube it later. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: |
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
Ron Paul you suck!
0% eh? 
Waht a stupid loser that guy must be! |
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