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Finger prints for my ARC
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Bubbliee



Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Location: Kelowna, BC Canada

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:23 pm    Post subject: Finger prints for my ARC Reply with quote

I was supposed to register for my ARC today but I walked out after Korean immigration insisted that I had to give them my finger prints. Nobody has my finger prints on file, not even the Canadian government so why should I give them to the Korean government? I feel that my finger prints are personal and that I shouldn't have to give them up unless I have committed a crime (court ordered). I just emailed the Canadian embassy to see if anything can be done in this situation. Has anybody else refused to give their finger prints? Does anybody know a way around it?
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to a different Immigration office, if you have that option. I've never been asked to give prints, though I've heard that others have.

On the other hand, you're not in Canada anymore, and you may need to readjust your standards of personal privacy to the local level. What's standing on principle to you may be seen by these guys as a troublesome foreigner, or worse, someone with something to hide or may have something to hide in the future. And Immigration people are notoriously arbitrary, so it's probably better to submit to the requirement.

I expect the Canadian Embassy to tell you they have no jurisdiction here.


Last edited by The Lemon on Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
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casinoman



Joined: 12 Sep 2003
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's standard operating procedure. I had to get my fingerprint (right thumb) when I applied for my ARC.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember reading in the Korea Herald that this law was being rescinded this year, I think in September after complaints from foreigners that they were being treated as criminals. Anyone got any info on this? I want my prints back, I felt the same way as you but didn't throw a fit. I still regret it.

Go to a different Immigration office, if you have that option. I've never been asked to give prints, though I've heard that others have.

Lemon, you lucky lemon. What city was that?
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thumb? At Daejon immigration it was all fingers and both thumbs, the full spread. The same in Incheon the contract before this. I've had six contracts and was fingerprinted each time. I've heard, and this relaxed me into not giving a damn (I wasn't planning on any criminal activity or behaviour, anyway), that ALL Koreans have their fingerprints on file. Every Korean.
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casinoman



Joined: 12 Sep 2003
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about the misinformation. Actually I didn't get my right thumb printed for the ARC. I was "renouncing" my Korean citizenship (I was born in Seoul) at the Ministry of Justice counter on the 1st floor Immigration building. I had to leave my right thumb print on whatever document they were giving me so that I could apply for an F4 visa. When I was applying for my visa the Immigration officer (helpful lady BTW-dunno if it had to do with me being of Korean descent) automatically made me apply for an ARC. Then again, I think most people have to apply for their ARC on the 1st floor "Resident...control section??"
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's unusual at all to be asked to provide fingerprints when you're a foreign national applying for a work visa in a foreign country.
In Germany I had to go to the local police station to do it.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Lemon, you lucky lemon. What city was that?

I've never given prints, either in Seoul (1996-1998), or Kwangju (2001-now). Nor did I have to give them last year when they made us all get new ARCs.

However, I did have to give them money for their little stamp to stick on the ARC application and visa extensions. I'd have prefered to keep the money and give them the prints.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to provide Finger Prints for my ARC in Japan (1999).

They soon after changed the law.

However, some Japanese City Hall Foreign Registration offices still demanded finger prints from foreigners.

A lot of teachers I worked with b*tched about it.

I think it's a good idea, though and have no problem with it.
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anae



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: cowtown

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not just a foreigner thing. As far as I know, all Koreans have their thumb prints on their registration cards. There are still a lot of old habbits left over from the dictatorship days.
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BTM



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Back in the saddle.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I walked out after Korean immigration insisted that I had to give them my finger prints. Nobody has my finger prints on file, not even the Canadian government so why should I give them to the Korean government? I feel that my finger prints are personal and that I shouldn't have to give them up unless I have committed a crime


Oh, spare me.

It's no wonder we waeguk-in get such a bad reputation.

I suggest you shut the *beedeepbeep* up, go back, beg forgiveness, and give 'em your freakin' prints.

Have you never left your parents' basement before? Welcome to the real world, kiddo. Rolling Eyes

Edit : OK, that was a little harsh. Perhaps you were just having a bad day. We all do. And there might have been a time when I was wet enough behind the ears to actually get my back up about something like that too, I suppose. Nonetheless, my advice to go back and beg forgiveness, claiming misunderstanding or the old 'cultural difference' or PMS or somebloody thing stands.
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whatthefunk



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Dont have a clue

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to give prints of all my fingers and even a palm print. I was then taken to the holding cell while they processed my information. I was released into the custody of my boss who has since that time forced me into slave labor.
All us dirty, AIDS infested criminals should definately get our prints taken. Any crime that happens in Korea is a direct result of foreign activity, and so its best to keep tabs on us waygooks. And look what happens when we don't get our prints taken...foreign crime rises.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=9542&highlight=foriegn+foreign+crime
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My feelings exactly. I wish someone would make a citizen's arrest before the full moon and THE CHANGE.
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Walter Mitty



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Tokyo! ^.^

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to do the full spread at Seoul last spring and last month in Incheon. It didn't bother me since I'd done my full prints and DNA when I joined the army.

It was actually amusing at the Seoul office. When the guy was doing my prints he asked me, "have you ever had your prints taken before?" I said I had and he looked really nervous. "When?' he asked. I was sorely tempted to say something like, "oh, I got arrested for murder, but they couldn't prove it so they had to let me go," but I knew better. I just told him I'd had it done when I was in the army. He seemed relieved.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave prints- no big deal. I've had to get fingerprinted for a work visa in other countries before, so I didn't think twice about it.
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