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Drew345



Joined: 24 May 2005

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: Moldy Smell and Mold Removal Reply with quote

I just saw a great apartment for sell. I am looking to buy in Seoul. The apartment was on top floor (7), 3 nice bedrooms, full verandas, and view out the front and back. The big problem was that the place smelled like mold (bad renters before and empty now). Has anyone ever done mold removal and gotten rid of a moldy smell here in Korea? Or is mold impossible to kill once it gets into the woodwork?
I had mold in a house in California and before I rented it out the California law states that mold must be removed by a "licensed mold removal company". Cost was about 2 grand. Has anyone ever used a "mold removal company" here in Korea?
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Drew
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princess



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The apartments in Seoul are a joke! I like Seoul, but there is no way I will live the rest of my life in disgusting apartments. In my 5 years in Korea, I have yet to see an apartment that didn't have some kind of nasty problem, whether it be mold, or yello crap caked on the walls behind the gas burners, etc. Most apartments have had many people live in them before us, and I think they just didn't believe in cleaning. Yuck! On my day off today, I just moved my bed away from the wall, to find disgusting black mold all over the wall behind my bed. There was brwon dusty mold all behind my bed's headboard. I sprayed mold cleaner on the walls and scrubbed with a sponge, and the wallpaper started coming off. I put on rubber gloves and stripped away a bunch of the wallpaper and threw it out. Yuck! I'm still not totally finished. Many of these apartments were built like dungeons, with no way for air to get in. Small windows, too. Not to mention, wallpapering concrete. Like I've said before, the world's best architects were not born in Korea. I wouldn't let these idiots build a doghouse for a dog. They have no right to build apartments. Disgusting concrete and wallpaper!!!!!!!!!
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twg



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know about mold removal companies, but I found that attacking with bleach (wear a mask) and then leaving the windows open / airconditioner going, clears things out pretty good.

But once the stink gets in, the best you can hope for is to minimize it.
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Vicissitude



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Beware of moldy apartments! Reply with quote

Beware of moldy apartments! I got extremely sick from this and to the point where I had to go to the emergency room because I couldn't breath from the serious infection and congestion throughout my lungs and throat. It was so bad that I found myself throwing up from coughing uncontrollably. I had to be rushed into the emergency room for chest x-rays because I could have had broken ribs. They ended up just being seriously bruised from all the coughing and throwing up that I was doing all day and night long for weeks on end. My apartment was only a year old and this mold spread extremely fast. So to hell with people who think it's a good idea to wall-paper concrete in apartments.
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Drew345



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips, recommendations.
I went looking at many apartments. One was two years old and smelled moldy. Another was BRAND NEW and smelled moldy. In both cases the moldy apartments were on the top floor; one of a 7 floor building, and the other in a 12 story building. Both seemed to have water coming in through the walls and ceiling. Two Koreans told me that Koreans don't like the top floor of a building (Funny the way an entire race of people can have such uniform likes and dislikes) because of the heat in the summer. I think another reason is because of the mold on the top floors. So maybe you can get a good deal on a penthouse apartment, cause Koreans don't like them; but it might be hot, wet and moldy.
I ended up choosing an apartment on the 10th floor of a 12 story building. Just right I hope. No moldy smell.
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Drew
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:37 am    Post subject: Re: Beware of moldy apartments! Reply with quote

Vicissitude wrote:
Beware of moldy apartments! I got extremely sick from this and to the point where I had to go to the emergency room because I couldn't breath from the serious infection and congestion throughout my lungs and throat. It was so bad that I found myself throwing up from coughing uncontrollably. I had to be rushed into the emergency room for chest x-rays because I could have had broken ribs. They ended up just being seriously bruised from all the coughing and throwing up that I was doing all day and night long for weeks on end. My apartment was only a year old and this mold spread extremely fast. So to hell with people who think it's a good idea to wall-paper concrete in apartments.
Yeah, when I moved into this place in December, my school told me it had new wallpaper. Today, as I was removing disgusting black molded wallpaper, I found a double layer of wallpaper. The cheap arses put new wallpaper over old wallpaper. I say when you move into a place start ripping off the wallpaper before you have problems. A girl I work with told me if I emove the wallpaper, I will have to see a concrete wall. Not exactly beautiful, but way better than looking at wallpaper covered in disgusting, black slimy mold. Gross! Also, there was brownish dusty mold on the back of my bed's headboard, where it had been right up against the black molded wallpaper. One night I could actually feel wetness on my headboard. Today, I saw what was hiding behind there. It's the worst mold I've ever seen!!! I'd suggest never keeping any furnitue pushed right up against a wall. Of course, the idiots at my school put my bed right up against the wall.
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princess



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
I dont know about mold removal companies, but I found that attacking with bleach (wear a mask) and then leaving the windows open / airconditioner going, clears things out pretty good.

But once the stink gets in, the best you can hope for is to minimize it.
I've heard from a couple of different sources that mold will actually feed off of bleach and continue to grow. Bleach is made up of mostly water, and wetness and moisture is what causes mold in the first place. Korean apartments are built like dungeons or prison cells, so that's the problem right there. Hardly any natural light gets in half of these places. I swear, most builders in Korea are drunk on soju having prison nightmares as they build these holes they call homes.
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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: Beware of moldy apartments! Reply with quote

princess wrote:
Vicissitude wrote:
Beware of moldy apartments! I got extremely sick from this and to the point where I had to go to the emergency room because I couldn't breath from the serious infection and congestion throughout my lungs and throat. It was so bad that I found myself throwing up from coughing uncontrollably. I had to be rushed into the emergency room for chest x-rays because I could have had broken ribs. They ended up just being seriously bruised from all the coughing and throwing up that I was doing all day and night long for weeks on end. My apartment was only a year old and this mold spread extremely fast. So to hell with people who think it's a good idea to wall-paper concrete in apartments.
Yeah, when I moved into this place in December, my school told me it had new wallpaper. Today, as I was removing disgusting black molded wallpaper, I found a double layer of wallpaper. The cheap arses put new wallpaper over old wallpaper. I say when you move into a place start ripping off the wallpaper before you have problems. A girl I work with told me if I emove the wallpaper, I will have to see a concrete wall. Not exactly beautiful, but way better than looking at wallpaper covered in disgusting, black slimy mold. Gross! Also, there was brownish dusty mold on the back of my bed's headboard, where it had been right up against the black molded wallpaper. One night I could actually feel wetness on my headboard. Today, I saw what was hiding behind there. It's the worst mold I've ever seen!!! I'd suggest never keeping any furnitue pushed right up against a wall. Of course, the idiots at my school put my bed right up against the wall.

I don't know how you were able to get all the wallpaper off the concrete. I found that impossible. Why Koreans don't do the smart thing and paint the bloody concrete walls, I'll never know.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: Beware of moldy apartments! Reply with quote

Vicissitude wrote:
princess wrote:
Vicissitude wrote:
Beware of moldy apartments! I got extremely sick from this and to the point where I had to go to the emergency room because I couldn't breath from the serious infection and congestion throughout my lungs and throat. It was so bad that I found myself throwing up from coughing uncontrollably. I had to be rushed into the emergency room for chest x-rays because I could have had broken ribs. They ended up just being seriously bruised from all the coughing and throwing up that I was doing all day and night long for weeks on end. My apartment was only a year old and this mold spread extremely fast. So to hell with people who think it's a good idea to wall-paper concrete in apartments.
Yeah, when I moved into this place in December, my school told me it had new wallpaper. Today, as I was removing disgusting black molded wallpaper, I found a double layer of wallpaper. The cheap arses put new wallpaper over old wallpaper. I say when you move into a place start ripping off the wallpaper before you have problems. A girl I work with told me if I emove the wallpaper, I will have to see a concrete wall. Not exactly beautiful, but way better than looking at wallpaper covered in disgusting, black slimy mold. Gross! Also, there was brownish dusty mold on the back of my bed's headboard, where it had been right up against the black molded wallpaper. One night I could actually feel wetness on my headboard. Today, I saw what was hiding behind there. It's the worst mold I've ever seen!!! I'd suggest never keeping any furnitue pushed right up against a wall. Of course, the idiots at my school put my bed right up against the wall.

I don't know how you were able to get all the wallpaper off the concrete. I found that impossible. Why Koreans don't do the smart thing and paint the bloody concrete walls, I'll never know.
It was a big black patch of mold right behind my bed. I pulled my bed away from the wall, started spraying mold killer on the wall, and the wallpaper just started to peel off when I took a sponge to it. I put on gloves and ripped and peeled it right off, threw it in a bag, and went outside and trashed it. There's still a little bit of paper left that I will remove and I'll keep an eye on it. The smell is awful. It's like a garden of dirt. I want to open my windows more but it keeps raining, and rain equals moisture. I may sleep with my stove fan on tonight. I think this just may be the reason I can't live in Korea forever. I like it here, but I'd like to live in something better someday. I think I now realize why so many old people are always horking and spitting everywhere. Pollution, mold, plus smoking. What a combo!
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blynch



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: Beware of moldy apartments! Reply with quote

princess wrote:
Vicissitude wrote:
princess wrote:
Vicissitude wrote:
Beware of moldy apartments! I got extremely sick from this and to the point where I had to go to the emergency room because I couldn't breath from the serious infection and congestion throughout my lungs and throat. It was so bad that I found myself throwing up from coughing uncontrollably. I had to be rushed into the emergency room for chest x-rays because I could have had broken ribs. They ended up just being seriously bruised from all the coughing and throwing up that I was doing all day and night long for weeks on end. My apartment was only a year old and this mold spread extremely fast. So to hell with people who think it's a good idea to wall-paper concrete in apartments.
Yeah, when I moved into this place in December, my school told me it had new wallpaper. Today, as I was removing disgusting black molded wallpaper, I found a double layer of wallpaper. The cheap arses put new wallpaper over old wallpaper. I say when you move into a place start ripping off the wallpaper before you have problems. A girl I work with told me if I emove the wallpaper, I will have to see a concrete wall. Not exactly beautiful, but way better than looking at wallpaper covered in disgusting, black slimy mold. Gross! Also, there was brownish dusty mold on the back of my bed's headboard, where it had been right up against the black molded wallpaper. One night I could actually feel wetness on my headboard. Today, I saw what was hiding behind there. It's the worst mold I've ever seen!!! I'd suggest never keeping any furnitue pushed right up against a wall. Of course, the idiots at my school put my bed right up against the wall.

I don't know how you were able to get all the wallpaper off the concrete. I found that impossible. Why Koreans don't do the smart thing and paint the bloody concrete walls, I'll never know.
It was a big black patch of mold right behind my bed. I pulled my bed away from the wall, started spraying mold killer on the wall, and the wallpaper just started to peel off when I took a sponge to it. I put on gloves and ripped and peeled it right off, threw it in a bag, and went outside and trashed it. There's still a little bit of paper left that I will remove and I'll keep an eye on it. The smell is awful. It's like a garden of dirt. I want to open my windows more but it keeps raining, and rain equals moisture. I may sleep with my stove fan on tonight. I think this just may be the reason I can't live in Korea forever. I like it here, but I'd like to live in something better someday. I think I now realize why so many old people are always horking and spitting everywhere. Pollution, mold, plus smoking. What a combo!


You are the goddess of Seoul... so fix it up instead of crying like a baby
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Tokki1



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a severe black and green mold infestation back in 2003, and became so violently ill that I couldn't work and thought I was going to die. It was so bad that it ate all of my wooden furniture, sofa, paintings etc...and I had to move. Mold loves humidity and heat. I suggest getting a decent dehumidifier, get all the wallpaper off of the walls if you have to (concrete is pretty) and use that mold spray stuff Korean stores sell and those little dehumidifier packs that absorb moisture. The reason my place was so bad is because some Korean had knocked a hole in the main wall and filled it with cardboard and wallpapered over it. It was a hole of mold (and ants!). If the walls are your standard Korean concrete, you should be able to fix the problem (although I don't understand why 'water is coming in').
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wings



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the problem is really bad I would invest in a dehumidifier (sp?) I lived in a very old house in Canada with a damp moldy basement, once we put the dehumidifier in we had no more problems.

Also after you clean a moldy area with bleach, use your hairdryer to make sure the moisture from the bleach itself is all dried up. That should mean it will take a bit longer for the mold to come back.
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princess



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokki1 wrote:
I had a severe black and green mold infestation back in 2003, and became so violently ill that I couldn't work and thought I was going to die. It was so bad that it ate all of my wooden furniture, sofa, paintings etc...and I had to move. Mold loves humidity and heat. I suggest getting a decent dehumidifier, get all the wallpaper off of the walls if you have to (concrete is pretty) and use that mold spray stuff Korean stores sell and those little dehumidifier packs that absorb moisture. The reason my place was so bad is because some Korean had knocked a hole in the main wall and filled it with cardboard and wallpapered over it. It was a hole of mold (and ants!). If the walls are your standard Korean concrete, you should be able to fix the problem (although I don't understand why 'water is coming in').
Actually, heat helps the situation. If you get hot air flowing through your place, it is supposed to help the mold. That's why we need to open the windows in our Korean dungeon apartments as much as possible. I've also heard air con and the stove fan are good for mold problems. I'll be able to run my air con soon. Thank goodness.
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Tokki1



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use a blow drier too. The big culprit here is moisture. During the warmer months the humidity and heat creates a perfect environment for mold. Ventilation is good though; if you can open a couple of windows and get a good breeze going through it's good.

Thing is, July is monsoon season. That means heat and rain. I always make sure I have a dehumidifier and mold spray on hand when the rains come.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokki1 wrote:
You can use a blow drier too. The big culprit here is moisture. During the warmer months the humidity and heat creates a perfect environment for mold. Ventilation is good though; if you can open a couple of windows and get a good breeze going through it's good.

Thing is, July is monsoon season. That means heat and rain. I always make sure I have a dehumidifier and mold spray on hand when the rains come.
Yes, I've been worrying about the upcoming monsoon season. All that rain can't be good. The thing is, the wall behind my bed faces the outside stairwell. I think that's how my mold got started. I will look for a dehumidifier soon. What mold spray do you use? The only kind I found came in a green spray bottle. It is geared towards use for the bathroom sink, etc, though.
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