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wings



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: ECC Reply with quote

Sorry, I'm sure this school has been mentioned before, but the search function isn't working. I have been sent some inital information for an interveiw with ECC in northern Seoul (no confirmation yet as to which campus exactly)

Any general information on this chain?
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GENERAL information.
I worked for an ECC in my city, well south of Seoul. The franchise owner did me in ways that would take 10 prophets 10 years to dream up. That doesn't mean that all are the same, but for sure there is logistic communication among the group.
Post your contract in the contract sticky and absolutely listen to what the respondees have to say.
PS- don't worry about the clause that says you will not discuss your contract.
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Donkey Beer



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The deal breaker i had with them was wanting me to eat lunch with the kids for no extra pay.
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wings



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that would definatly be a deal breaker for me. There is NO way I am eating lunch with little kiddies.

Was this in your contract? or was it something that they brought up after you arrived?
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay away.
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wings



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Stay away.


Do you have any details? or is it just a generally bad school?
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will work you like a slave, and they won't appreciate your efforts. They will rip you off.

I've never heard anything good about that chain, or Wonderland or LCI.
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Lao Wai



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: East Coast Canada

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

I worked for one in Busan (company owned, not a franchise).

The pros:

I got paid on time. I got my bonus.
Structured curriculum.


The cons:

Less flexibility with lessons.
Working with Korean co-teachers. The kids respected them, not the foreign teachers. I worked at another hogwan with no Korean teachers. This problem didn't exist.

The pay was a lot lower than any other hogwan around. The apartment was not very good. The bathroom really sucked.

I worked Saturdays. NEVER AGAIN. When I got back to Canada, my parents though I was dying because I looked so haggard (excessive drinking may have had something to do with this.)

Overall, it was 'okay' to start with. It wasn't terrible, but there was sort of a culture of fear at our school. Everybody kept on a tight leash.
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Donkey Beer



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wings wrote:
that would definatly be a deal breaker for me. There is NO way I am eating lunch with little kiddies.

Was this in your contract? or was it something that they brought up after you arrived?


It wasn't in the contract. I had to ask.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would consider having to spend lunch time as contact time, and ask for overtime.
Either that, or eat with them. Eat with your hands. Stuff as much food into your mouth as you possibly can and start talking. Without being too obvious, make sure food comes out. Make it fun. Teach then atrocious table manners. Have a food fight. Teach them that if they don't like something, to push it off their tray onto the table. Use your imagination. I give it one week max, and you get to spend your lunch any way you want. Laughing
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they expect u to do it because your OT is "free lunch" and it's usually the class u are the teacher off so lunch is right after that class and u have to stay with them and actually dish it out
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