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The OFFICIAL Motorcycle/Scooter thread!
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pkang, I just practised going 'round a middle schoolyard early mornings(until the janitor swore swinging a broom), then drove in the country to learn.

I was looking up specs and reviews about the Hyosung Comet GT650 anyway;

Bikez specs;
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/hyosung_gt_650_2005.php

Here is a selection of 12 reviews by bike owners;
www.powersportsnetwork.com/enthusiasts/review_list_vehicle.asp?veh=25997

It's 'like' the Suzuki SV650, people say, and a couple of hundred cheaper.
It's made "entirely of steel, even the rims" says one owner. The top speed is listed as 87mph/140kph which is Granny's day out Smile . Hp is 76, torque 68, and a V2. 210kg. Lots of people like it because they can get it, new, fairly cheap compared to bigger name bikes.
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Richard Krainium



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I checked that link and I can't believe the top speed of the GT650 is that low. My friend's Comet GT250, pretty much did that. I know for sure the GT650R can do close to 200kph, cause I had one pass me when I was doing 185!
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

140kph can't be right. The GV650 can also clear 200kph with the same engine!
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unplugged_boy



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FINALLY! some one had some sense to create an offical motorcycle thread. I think this should be in the general forum as it is a "forum for general discussion on issues related to *living* in South Korea."

STICKY THIS!
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Richard Krainium



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IlIlNine wrote:
140kph can't be right. The GV650 can also clear 200kph with the same engine!

Well, I almost got it to 200kph! I saw some carb mods that I'm sure would do it if I had the parts, tools and most importantly, the skills. Embarassed
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ABCDAVE



Joined: 14 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys,

I just bought a 2007 Daelim Roadwin VJF-i (125cc) today. Any thoughts on this type of bike? While researching which bike I wanted to buy, I focused more on the Hyosung bikes, rather than Daelim. However, because of where I live I didn't have as many options as I would have liked. So... I purchased a Daelim instead. I'm pretty Korean-bike illiterate, so whatever foresight you guys might be able to share would be great.

The store owners said that since the bike is new I will need to change the oil for the first time once I hit 200km. After that, every 500km. Naturally, I will need to keep the RPMs low for a while, however, I don't know for how long. Any ideas?

My first time on the bike will be tomorrow when I go to pick it up. I will have about an hour's drive home to get used to it providing that the rain stops.
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Richard Krainium



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ABCDAVE wrote:
Hey guys,

I just bought a 2007 Daelim Roadwin VJF-i (125cc) today. Any thoughts on this type of bike? While researching which bike I wanted to buy, I focused more on the Hyosung bikes, rather than Daelim. However, because of where I live I didn't have as many options as I would have liked. So... I purchased a Daelim instead. I'm pretty Korean-bike illiterate, so whatever foresight you guys might be able to share would be great.

The store owners said that since the bike is new I will need to change the oil for the first time once I hit 200km. After that, every 500km. Naturally, I will need to keep the RPMs low for a while, however, I don't know for how long. Any ideas?

My first time on the bike will be tomorrow when I go to pick it up. I will have about an hour's drive home to get used to it providing that the rain stops.

Congratulations! I'm sure the bike will be great. I really like the monoshock design. It is nice looking little bike. Here's a link to the Owner's Manual and Service Manual in English. Just click on the tab that says parts and service. I'd follow the dealer's advice as well and have the oil changed and the filter as recommended. Enjoy the new bike!
http://www.daelimusa.com/guia/comercios/daelimusa/html/inicio.htm
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ABCDAVE



Joined: 14 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Krainium wrote:
ABCDAVE wrote:
Hey guys,

I just bought a 2007 Daelim Roadwin VJF-i (125cc) today. Any thoughts on this type of bike? While researching which bike I wanted to buy, I focused more on the Hyosung bikes, rather than Daelim. However, because of where I live I didn't have as many options as I would have liked. So... I purchased a Daelim instead. I'm pretty Korean-bike illiterate, so whatever foresight you guys might be able to share would be great.

The store owners said that since the bike is new I will need to change the oil for the first time once I hit 200km. After that, every 500km. Naturally, I will need to keep the RPMs low for a while, however, I don't know for how long. Any ideas?

My first time on the bike will be tomorrow when I go to pick it up. I will have about an hour's drive home to get used to it providing that the rain stops.

Congratulations! I'm sure the bike will be great. I really like the monoshock design. It is nice looking little bike. Here's a link to the Owner's Manual and Service Manual in English. Just click on the tab that says parts and service. I'd follow the dealer's advice as well and have the oil changed and the filter as recommended. Enjoy the new bike!
http://www.daelimusa.com/guia/comercios/daelimusa/html/inicio.htm


Many thanks for the heads up on the owner's and service manuals. However, are they same for the VJF-i? Judging from the pictures in the owner's manual, aesthetically my bike is different. But since the engines are the same, do you think the manuals will be the same too? Here is a link to a part of Daelim's website that has a pic of the one I bought. I chose black.

Hope the pics don't change your opinion of the bike Wink
http://www.dmc.co.kr/cyber/cyber_VJF_high.asp
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Illnine has a 600 sportbike, and possibly others here. I ride a Virago now and it turns 'on a dime' very well, especially with the low center of gravity, engine slung down. I only drove a sportbike twice, the same day. A CB400 then a 999CBR. When I tried to turn 'on a dime' as with the Virago I found the steering handle was blocked by the 'carapace' or whatever you call the beetle-shell like fairing on your bug-like sportbikes. I couldn't turn half as well and almost dumped the bike since the center of gravity is higher. These sportbikes are designed to maneuver a bit but most importantly go straight and fast. Do you soon get used to the 'restricted steering' (I'd call it, compared to a 'cruiser')?.
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Richard Krainium



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ABCDAVE wrote:
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Many thanks for the heads up on the owner's and service manuals. However, are they same for the VJF-i? Judging from the pictures in the owner's manual, aesthetically my bike is different. But since the engines are the same, do you think the manuals will be the same too? Here is a link to a part of Daelim's website that has a pic of the one I bought. I chose black.

The maintenance schedule and break-in procedures would be the same, I'm pretty sure. Like I said, it's a cool looking bike and black always works for motorcycles! Hope you sleep ok tonight! I know I'd be busting a gut waiting to pick-up a BRAND NEW BIKE! Nothing beats that feeling!
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That VJF-i is one sharp looking bike!
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
I know Illnine has a 600 sportbike, and possibly others here. I ride a Virago now and it turns 'on a dime' very well, especially with the low center of gravity, engine slung down. I only drove a sportbike twice, the same day. A CB400 then a 999CBR. When I tried to turn 'on a dime' as with the Virago I found the steering handle was blocked by the 'carapace' or whatever you call the beetle-shell like fairing on your bug-like sportbikes. I couldn't turn half as well and almost dumped the bike since the center of gravity is higher. These sportbikes are designed to maneuver a bit but most importantly go straight and fast. Do you soon get used to the 'restricted steering' (I'd call it, compared to a 'cruiser')?.


Err .. not quite!

Sport bikes are definitely made to turn above all else.

The high center of gravity is a result of higher ground clearance which in turn allows much more lean angle than on a cruiser (which would scrape all kinds of parts if turned sharply at high speed).

I guess the big difference is that sport bikes are made to turn at high speed, while crusers are made to be easily maneuverable at slower speeds. Obviously there's a lot of overlap.

If a sport bike was made for speed above all else it would have fatter, wider tires, be lower to the ground, but still have a similar (aerodynmic) riding position.

There are a few really good books I highly reccomend people read: A Twist of the Wrist (1 and 2), and Sport Riding Techniques. Lots of good info there.

Also, there's a ton of invaluable info here too:

http://www.sportrider.com/ride/RSS/

This one is particularly useful.

http://www.sportrider.com/ride/146_9912_motorcycle_counter_steering/

Quote:
carapace'


I usually call it the gas tank! Wink
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unplugged_boy



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ABCDAVE wrote:
Hey guys,

I just bought a 2007 Daelim Roadwin VJF-i (125cc) today. Any thoughts on this type of bike? While researching which bike I wanted to buy, I focused more on the Hyosung bikes, rather than Daelim. However, because of where I live I didn't have as many options as I would have liked. So... I purchased a Daelim instead. I'm pretty Korean-bike illiterate, so whatever foresight you guys might be able to share would be great.

The store owners said that since the bike is new I will need to change the oil for the first time once I hit 200km. After that, every 500km. Naturally, I will need to keep the RPMs low for a while, however, I don't know for how long. Any ideas?

My first time on the bike will be tomorrow when I go to pick it up. I will have about an hour's drive home to get used to it providing that the rain stops.


Wow.. nice lookin bike. Daelim is catching up to Hyosung in the styling department. I have a Hyosung 125cc EXIV. Im thinking about upgrading. Can i ask how much you got it for Dave?
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ABCDAVE



Joined: 14 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha~ Sleep certainly wasn't as easy as it has been. I'll be heading out to pick it up hopefully within another hour or so. If I can figure out how to post pictures on here, I'll try to share some with you guys.

unplugged_boy - Certainly, 2,900,000W. Just as a heads up though, take cash cuz they will charge an additional 10% if you use a credit card. From what they told me yesterday, it will be about $400 for settling all the tag and insurance issues as well. I'm actually a little unclear on this subject and it's procedure, but I will share an update once I pick the bike up. However, since you already have a bike, I'm sure I'm not telling you anything new Confused

Thanks again to all for the advice and support.
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marckot



Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Location: Mokpo

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am dying down here in Mokpo without a bike!!!!!

I sold my old Magma about 3 months ago when I moved down to Mokpo. There are some beautiful riding places down here in the south.

I want to buy a new bike because I am starting to develop some withdrawal symptoms from a lack of riding Shocked

I narrowed it down a little but I need some advice from owners or people who have knowledge bout these models.

Honda magna 750
Honda Steed 400
Yamaha Dragstar (don't know spelling) 400

I took a 250 mirage for a ride and must say that it is a comfortable bike to ride. There is enough power when I am driving alone but it lacks power when two people plus weekend baggage get on it.

I like the mirage 650. What a good looking bike!!! The price is a little high though. I saw the following prices for the above bikes:

Honda magna between 3.5 million and 4 million for a bike in good condition.

Honda steed between 3 million and 4 million.

The Yamaha was also between 3 and 4 million


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