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cosmicgirlie
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pkang0202
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| Michael Moore makes documentary? Here I thought all his films were "fiction". |
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superacidjax
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Nazi propaganda films were also considered "documentaries." At least when they came out. |
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| Michael Moore makes documentary? Here I thought all his films were "fiction". |
And I suppose you believe 9-11 was a terrorist attack? That fire can melt steel?
I've heard great reviews about Sicko. If you think the American medical system is in good shape, you're a few thermite charges short of a professional demolition job.  |
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superacidjax
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Tokki1 wrote: |
| That fire can melt steel?: |
You're a moron. Get the facts, learn some science, THEN you can come sit at the big boy table.
Read what popular mechanics has to say about the collapse, from a source a lot more objective and scientific than the kooks wearing foil on their heads, or sitting around a drum circles with hacky sacks.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=4 |
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Tokki1
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Get the facts?. Facts? LOL... You think you have them? I can't believe the control the Bush administration has over the American masses. It's scary.
Oooh, the big boy table! By big boys I assume you're referring to Americans who have faith in their government and their media?
I thought that was called the 'big baaaah' table, you wooly git.
Will I be allowed to participate in choosing the next country the U.S.A will bomb and invade if I'm allowed to sit at the big boy table?
Here are the first 3 parts of what I think is one of the most provocative 'documentaries' on the subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odp1FO0Vmuw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7BSt9jhxPQ&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd8B-8Au-Wk&mode=related&search=
Why don't you try watching these. I think there are 11 parts. There are no hacky sacks, no foil on heads. Or do you refuse to keep an open mind about what your government is up to? |
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superacidjax
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Tokki1 wrote: |
| Get the facts?. Facts? LOL... You think you have them? I can't believe the control the Bush administration has over the American masses. It's scary. |
You think that the Bush government has control over the masses, just because the masses don't buy into the long discredited conspiracy theories about 9-11? The conspiracy theories you and your socialist friends present are based on conjucture and wishful thinking rather than actual science. Did you actually read what Popular Science had to say?. They feauture scientists with unquestionable credentials that do a scientific and independent analysis of each of the major conspiracy claims and debunk it using science that anyone could duplicate, in other words, it's valid science.
Obviously, your ability to understand actual scientific experimental methods is probably stunted from the overdose of politically oriented propaganda fed to you by the fringe left. There's a reason that the 9-11 conspiracy theorists are considered kooks.. because their arguments are logical in the same way that a paranoid schitzophrenic can provide justification for any irrational fear he's created in his own mind. The schitzophrenic sounds believable, but the reality is that it's all a construction.
If these 9-11 conspiracies held any water wouldn't you think that the foreign media, especially the British tabloids or Reuters would have blown the story sky high? But no. The only places these long-discredited theories exist are in the back rooms of indymedia.org or in the organizing offices of the next WTO riot.
It's interesting to note that if something is scientifically sound, that it must be a subtle manipulation of the Bush Administration. You obviously don't come from America, otherwise you'd know that the Federal Government has minimal influence on the lives of most people there.. The feds are on the news, but the day-to-day management of the country happens at the state and local level. It's the Abbe Hoffmans of the US that make it seem like there's a conspiracy lurking around every corner, in reality, things just aren't that exciting. Most of the time a rational explaination is behind everything, and not some paranoid plan. |
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JMO
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| superacidjax wrote: |
| Nazi propaganda films were also considered "documentaries." At least when they came out. |
Ah, the inevitable comparison to Nazis. When you can't express an idea clearly, or don't have an idea to express, call the other person a Nazi.
As this was only the third post, I think this is a record. |
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superacidjax
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
| Ah, the inevitable comparison to Nazis. When you can't express an idea clearly, or don't have an idea to express, call the other person a Nazi. |
You are as deep as a cup of tea. I didn't call Moore a Nazi, I was simply suggesting that to call Moore's films "documentaries" was AS ridiculous as calling Nazi propaganda "documentaries."
You're a a moron if you think that I was calling Moore a Nazi. If anything, I was calling Moore a propagandist, but certainly not a Nazi. Moore is a communist, not a Nazi. |
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| superacidjax wrote: |
| Troll_Bait wrote: |
| Ah, the inevitable comparison to Nazis. When you can't express an idea clearly, or don't have an idea to express, call the other person a Nazi. |
You are as deep as a cup of tea. I didn't call Moore a Nazi, I was simply suggesting that to call Moore's films "documentaries" was AS ridiculous as calling Nazi propaganda "documentaries."
You're a a moron if you think that I was calling Moore a Nazi. If anything, I was calling Moore a propagandist, but certainly not a Nazi. Moore is a communist, not a Nazi. |
Lol, that's as funny as calling America a democracy. |
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superacidjax
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Tokki1 wrote: |
| superacidjax wrote: |
| Troll_Bait wrote: |
| Ah, the inevitable comparison to Nazis. When you can't express an idea clearly, or don't have an idea to express, call the other person a Nazi. |
You are as deep as a cup of tea. I didn't call Moore a Nazi, I was simply suggesting that to call Moore's films "documentaries" was AS ridiculous as calling Nazi propaganda "documentaries."
You're a a moron if you think that I was calling Moore a Nazi. If anything, I was calling Moore a propagandist, but certainly not a Nazi. Moore is a communist, not a Nazi. |
Lol, that's as funny as calling America a democracy. |
There is no such thing as a democracy. The US is a republic. Michael Moore is a master of factual editing. He tends to edit facts into arrangements that prove his point, rather than into logical arguments. Bowling for Columbine and Roger and Me are great examples of him failing to look at an issue intelligently.
In Roger and Me, he made the auto idustry out to be a villan for moving factories out Michigan, when if fact, that move is what has allowed the US auto industry to survive against the more competitive and efficient Japanese. He looks at the parts, but fails to look at the whole. His economic theories are based on personal bias and not sound academics or even reasoned thought.
It would be like editing your Dave's posts to make you look like you endorsed Bush, when if fact you don't. But, still, I could take your words, rearrange them, add some powerful images that support the edited version of your words and convince people that it's the truth. You'd know it's false, the people that know you would know it's false, but the rest of the world would think it's true, because they don't have any other information about you or your views. That's Michael Moore style "documentary" production. |
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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Well, as some comic relief:
What do Bin Ladin and wool panties have in common?
Give up?
They both irritate bush.
hehe... |
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demi
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Location: London
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| His economic theories are based on personal bias and not sound academics or even reasoned thought. |
Hmmm....I wonder what this guys theories are based on. |
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| demi wrote: |
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| His economic theories are based on personal bias and not sound academics or even reasoned thought. |
Hmmm....I wonder what this guys theories are based on. |
Popular Mechanics. The bible of reason |
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