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Finding your HS students at the bar - what would you do?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Finding your HS students at the bar - what would you do? Reply with quote

What would you do if you met up with some friends at your local and then suddenly noticed that four (well, three out of four I could identify) of your high school students were at the table across from you and at least a couple of them had successfully ordered pints of beer? Would you inform their homeroom teachers or just wink and nod the next time you passed them. In this case I'm talking about grade 3 vocational students (age 17-18 in western years) I no longer teach, several of whom have been punished every which way over their years at school, to no apparent benefit whatsoever. They've always been nice to me, and never gave me any of the problems they have some of the Korean teachers, even though they had zero interest whatsoever in learning English. What really got me was just how brazen they were about it. They finished up their beers and left shortly after I arrived, but made no sort of attempt to hide what they were doing at all in a bar with about 25 other people, there being a very good chance that someone would recognise them. I went and spoke to the ajuma after they left and she said they had said they were first year uni students; a couple of them had funked up their hairstyles enough to make it look very plausible. She also said that several of them had been smoking before I arrived.
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pocariboy73



Joined: 23 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have done nothing but smiled. Were they hurting you? Just let them be.

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sconner



Joined: 26 Jan 2006
Location: South Carolina

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That ones hard. I ran inot a few of my elementary school students on the street smoking. They were twelve, so it really freaked me out. They looked very embarrassed and tried to hide it, but it was too late. I just told them that smoking is a bad habit, bad for their health. But when I was their age, I know wouldn't have listened to me.
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oneofthesarahs



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At that age, I'd let it be. I think everyone pushes the boundaries a little at that age. Especially if they were just sitting there, knocking back a few and not doing anything particularly out of control.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of three things:

1) I'd leave before they saw me and I haven't already ordered
2) I'd pretend I didn't know them
or
3) I'd tell them to take a hike or I'd be telling their homeroom teacher on Monday.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bosintang wrote:
One of three things:

1) I'd leave before they saw me and I haven't already ordered
2) I'd pretend I didn't know them
or
3) I'd tell them to take a hike or I'd be telling their homeroom teacher on Monday.


Yeah, I had already sat down and poured a glass from my friend's pitcher before I noticed them. One of them smiled and waved and then looked nervously down when I didn't return her smile, and another one turned around to see who it was and then bowed nervously. I'm also on really friendly terms with the owner of the hof and didn't want to make a scene at his bar when it was full of patrons. Five minutes after I arrived my friend wanted to talk to me outside about some unrelated matter and when I went back into the hof five minutes later they had disappeared - perhaps they thought I was going to call someone or do something. I'd be willing to bet that 30 minutes later they were at a park somewhere drinking soju, so it's probably not like doing anything would have a major effect on their lives anyways.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No big deal. Just ignore them and pretend you don't see them or if you can't do that, tell them to find their own bar as this one is yours.
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think back to when you were 15-18 and what you did as a kid. I mean I couldnt make it into a bar it was just not that easy in the States. But I knwo we had our fair share of drinking and other things going on. So unless they were making complete arses of themselves I would let it slide. Wish them a good time or something.
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50 Won



Joined: 14 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were actually thinking of ratting out your own students??

Damn, dude!

I would've bought them a round on me.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw my teachers in bars when I was underage. They just said, "Hello. How are you blah, blah, blah".

Rolling Eyes

When I lived in Quebec there were 15 and 16-year olds drinking beer in bars.

Big deal.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sconner wrote:
That ones hard. I ran inot a few of my elementary school students on the street smoking. They were twelve, so it really freaked me out. They looked very embarrassed and tried to hide it, but it was too late. I just told them that smoking is a bad habit, bad for their health. But when I was their age, I know wouldn't have listened to me.


I teach elementary kids and I think I would be pretty shocked if I caught them smoking.

If I were in the OP's shoes, I would just smile and go about my own business. just having a few drinks with your friends isn't something I would do anything about. Now if it were female students having drinks with a table full of older business men then I would definitely break up that party and take her home personally.
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jay-shi



Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: On tour

PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
I saw my teachers in bars when I was underage. They just said, "Hello. How are you blah, blah, blah".

Rolling Eyes

When I lived in Quebec there were 15 and 16-year olds drinking beer in bars.

Big deal.


In Quebec the legal drinking age is 18 and it's merely a suggestion.
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superacidjax



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. I can't belive some of you would consider "telling" on your students. Who cares what they do? Why would I bother? It's not my job to be the student's mothers. If they were smoking at school.. that would be a different story, because the student's parents rely upon the teachers to look out for their kids during school hours.

But outside of school? Not my concern. My job is to look after their educational needs not be their surrogate parent. Besides, the OP was in a bar too, so obviously it seems kind of hypocritical to be railing on the students for following their teacher's example. Regarding their age.. they're going to be leaving for the Army in just a few years, why not let them just do their thing?

I always thought the idea of a drinking age was ridiculous. In the US, you can join the Army at 17, but you can't drink until you're 21. Screw that.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let 'em be. They're close enough to legal, they weren't hurting you, and it doesn't sound like they were being clowns. 12 year olds smoking isn't cool though. If they were my students, I'd take the cigarettes.
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kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"

PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"C'mon over here! Know any good drinking games? How about the beer dance? No? Oh, you wanna play 007? Cool."

Anyways, an American is allowed to join the military, carry a rifle and possibly kill someone at 18 and not allowed to drink? Hmmm...ah, off topic!

I drank with a number of my newly graduated students and didn't feel the least bit ackward. I demonstrated how to drink responsibly and still have a good time and when finished made sure they got home at a reasonable hour and safely with me being the teacher/hyeong(older brother).
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