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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: 100 chickens, 100 bucks Reply with quote

In the spirit of stultifying, perilous word problems we all love so much, I present to you one I solved tonight. Feel free to post your answer here, and the logic you used!







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Roosters: $5 each
Hens: $1 each
Chicks: $0.05 each

You have $100. You must buy exactly 100 chickens, at least one of each kind, spending exactly $100.

How many of each do you buy?











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cosmo



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

100 hens, duh.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta buy at least one of each.

30 views and no answers yet.. where's blynch when you need him???!!!
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cosmo



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was a trick question.

Since its a real math problem, I'll let someone else do it.
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cosmo



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A farmer has 100 dollars and needs to buy exactly

100 animals. He can buy Cows which cost $10 each, Pigs

which cost $3each, and Chickens which cost $0.50 each.

He must buy exactly 100 animals. He must buy at least one

of each of the three types of animals. He must spend all

of the $100. How many of each type does he buy?

Solution:

Let c = # of cows, p = # of pigs, k = # of chickens

The constraints are:

c>=1, p>=1, k>=1; c,p,k are integers.

c + p + k = 100

10.00c + 3.00p + 0.50k = 100

Since cows cost $10, the solution must contain a limited

number of them, So look at their possibilities first.

Using the process of elimination, we cannot purchase more

than 5 cows because 6,7,8,9,or 10 cows in the solution will

not leave enough money to buy the remaining 94,93,92,91, or

90 amimals needed:

10 cows = $100 leaves $0 dollars for 90 more animals.

9 cows = $90 leaves $10 dollars for 91 more animals.

(could buy at most 20 chickens)

8 cows = $80 leaves $20 dollars for 92 more animals.

(could buy at most 40 chickens)

7 cows = $70 leaves $30 dollars for 93 more animals.

(could buy at most 60 chickens)

6 cows = $60 leaves $40 dollars for 94 more animals.

(could buy at most 80 chickens)

5 cows = $50 leaves $50 dollars for 95 more animals.

(could buy 100 chickens)

So, the highest feasible value for c is 5.

Substituting this into the two equations, we get

5 + p + k = 100

50 + 3.00p + 0.50k = 100

which rearranges to:

p + k = 95

3.00p + 0.50k = 50

and solves by either substitution or elimination to

p =1, k = 94, giving a solution of:

5 cows = $50.00

1 pig = $ 3.00

94 chickens = $47.00

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100 animals $100.00

If we similarly try c = 4,3,2,and 1, the resulting two

equations in p and k do not possess integer values for

both p and k, so this is the only possible real-life

solution.
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kprrok



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way the original post is written, it doesn't matter. 100 chickens (the ones you must) buy equals $5, then use the remaining $95 to buy whatever animals you want.

KPRROK
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cosmo: Was that a copy and paste job? Be honest~

kprrok: I like the logic you used for that. You initially understood that whatever combination of chicks and hens purchased must equal a number that leaves a remainder divisible by 5, right?
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cosmo



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and the worst part is that it was worth ONLY 5 points on an exam.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmo wrote:
Yes, and the worst part is that it was worth ONLY 5 points on an exam.


Well it was pretty easy, lol.. the factor of 3 made it kind of obvious. I don't solve problems like that with a formula, though, meaning that I'm very limited in what I can do with math. I'm not sure if I remember any formula at all other than the Pythagoras theory, which doesn't seem to want to leave my mind.




No other takers on the OP question?? boooooo
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dogshed



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 100 hens for $100.
I need one of each.
I trade one hen for 20 chicks and now I have 19 extra.
Every time I trade a hen for 20 chicks I have 19 extra animals.
If I trade 5 hens for 1 rooster I get 4 less animals.
After playing around a bit I get that the smallest number divisible
by 19 and 4 is 19 x 4 which is 76.
I start over.
I get 19 roosters for 19 x 5 = $95 (76 less)
I get $4 worth of chicks = 80 chicks. (76 more)
I have 99 birds and I spent $99.
I add one hen.
All it took was a nap.
I have no idea how to do it with algebra.
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kprrok



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: 100 chickens, 100 bucks Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
Roosters: $5 each
Hens: $1 each
Chicks: $0.05 each

You have $100. You must buy exactly 100 chickens, at least one of each kind, spending exactly $100.

How many of each do you buy?


It doesn't matter what you buy. You can buy any amount of the roosters and hens you want. You MUST buy exactly 100 chickens (chicks), and then you can buy whatever.

100 Chicks = $5.
$100 - $5 = $95
Any number of Roosters (x) plus hens (y) where
5x + y = 95 satisfies this.

Where's the difficulty?

KPRROK
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dogshed



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: 100 chickens, 100 bucks Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
Qinella wrote:
Roosters: $5 each
Hens: $1 each
Chicks: $0.05 each

You have $100. You must buy exactly 100 chickens, at least one of each kind, spending exactly $100.

How many of each do you buy?


It doesn't matter what you buy. You can buy any amount of the roosters and hens you want. You MUST buy exactly 100 chickens (chicks), and then you can buy whatever.

100 Chicks = $5.
$100 - $5 = $95
Any number of Roosters (x) plus hens (y) where
5x + y = 95 satisfies this.

Where's the difficulty?

KPRROK


Chick is not an abreviation for chicken. You are wrong.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried this 5X+X+X/20=100

But then I forgot how to work those numbers.

So I just opened a spreadsheet and shot numbers at it.


19 Rooster
1 Hen
80 Chicks

So what should my formula have been?

x+y+z=A

5x+y+z/20=A

Where A is 100

I think?

cbc
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

80 chicks = $4
1 hen = $1
19 roosters = $95

Edit: Good, somebody else got it. I promise I didn't look.
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bosintang



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:

x+y+z=A

5x+y+z/20=A

Where A is 100

I think?

cbc


Yes, we can also add a bit more information: (x,y,z) are Elements of the set of natural numbers.

However there are three unknowns and only two equations, so to find the answer to the problem you have to bruteforce it by guessing every possible combination. To reach a perfect solution without guesswork, we would need three equations.


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