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| 2008 U.S. Election: Vote for your favorite Republican |
| Sam Brownback |
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0% |
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| Jim Gilmore |
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3% |
[ 1 ] |
| Rudy Giuliani |
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22% |
[ 7 ] |
| Mike Huckabee |
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3% |
[ 1 ] |
| Duncan Hunter |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| John McCain |
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3% |
[ 1 ] |
| Ron Paul |
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48% |
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| Mitt Romney |
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6% |
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| Tom Tancredo |
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6% |
[ 2 ] |
| Tommy Thompson |
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6% |
[ 2 ] |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: 2008 U.S. Election: Vote for your favorite Republican |
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Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas
Former Governor Jim Gilmore of Virginia
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York City, New York
Former Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas
Representative Duncan Hunter of California
Senator John McCain of Arizona
Representative Ron Paul of Texas
Former Governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts
Representative Tom Tancredo of Colorado
Former Governor Tommy Thompson of Wisconsin |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Ron Paul - 8
Rudy Giuliani - 3
Jim Gilmore - 1
Mike Huckabee - 1
Tom Tancredo - 1
Looks like McCain is pretty much off the radar map these days.. on Daves.. and on most polls. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| I guess I'm the only one that thought Huckabee seemed half decent. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:28 am Post subject: |
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actually none of them are decent. Gulliani's record as mayor of NYC is awful he dropped the ball on pre-9/11 terror infrastructure, no way the religious right supports him because of abortion and gay rights McCain sold out to the right which will turn off centrist voters, no way the evangelicals support Rommey because he is a mormon.
Ron Paul is hated by the Republican party though he likely has the best ideas of this group of runts and nuts
Wait until Fred Thompson gets in, he'll get all the right wing money, he has no baggage like Newt (starring in Law And Order really helps) and he has a Ronald Reagan charisma factor. Despite what I think of him (another right wing nut case), he'll get the nom and may give whatever Dem comes out a heck of a run |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| This poll shows, if nothing else, disconnect between posters on this board and the American people. Ron Paul will not even last through the first major primary. The most unrealistic choice in the above options. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: ... |
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The poll is not about viabilty. Given that there are two polls running simultaneously, I think it's safe to say that a fair number of those who chose Paul are ones who probably lean towards the Democrats.
But you can't comment on this matter with a steady hand, can you?  |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| This poll shows, if nothing else, disconnect between posters on this board and the American people. . |
Hmm...that's rarely news though. In the run-up to the 2004 election people on here were predicting that Bush would be crushed. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| ...In the run-up to the 2004 election people on here were predicting that Bush would be crushed. |
I can imagine. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: ... |
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| In the run-up to the 2004 election people on here were predicting that Bush would be crushed. |
That's funny, because I was on here during the 2004 election and don't recall anyone saying that. Both sides knew the election would be tight.
Do you care to provide some evidence or name names?
Or did you just make that up to suit your purposes? |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Had the election been fair, it would have been a bit of a rout in the Electoral College, but we all know how that went. There has been enough shenanigans during the last four years to still skew the vote. Hopefully, people are so sick of the worst presidency in US history that the illegal, unethical and illegal actions of this administration won't outweigh the voice of th people. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| That's funny, because I was on here during the 2004 election and don't recall...Both sides knew the election would be tight. |
Funny you should say that, Nowhere Man. Because, as you know, I was not here during that election but I have been able to guess at the level and tone of discourse I might have seen had I been present.
Take Raoul Duke's warnings, for example...
| 15 Sept. 2004 Raoul Duke wrote: |
As most regular readers/contributors of the Current Events Forum are already aware, the level of personal attacks and flames in political-related threads here is quickly reaching an intolerable level.
And so it's time to remind users here of a few things:
The rule regarding flamming and personal attacks has not been strictly enforced on this forum, in part due to the difficulty in separating political views from flames/attacks in many instances coupled with a reluctance to over-moderate what is largely a political forum in the face of the upcoming US election.
This will now change and everyone is now on notice that personal attacks will no longer be tolerated. Users will treat each other with civility and respect regardless of the political chasms that may exist.
We're not asking people to refrain from giving their views on political parties, public figures, and events, but calling another user (for example) a crypto-fascist because they don't like Kerry or a terrorist-sympathizer because they don't agree with the war in Iraq will no longer be tolerated... |
Now, I cannot speak for you, of course. But when I read these kinds of warnings, which, presumably, responded to the level and tone of discourse that posters engaged in at the time, I would not exactly characterize it as a group of nice, professional guys, amicably agreeing "Yeah. Gonna be a tight election. Tough call. Best of luck..."
Rather, I think it more likely that people hurled crude insult upon insult at each other, viciously sneered at one another and especially at whichever candidate or political party they despised -- and even called each other "crypto-fascists" and "terrorist-sympathizers" from time to time. (I find the "Fascist" reference shocking and hard-to-believe, myself. )
In any case, care to wager against my prediction that Ron Paul will not likely survive the first major primary...?
Oh yeah, how is that for a steady hand? |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Back on topic, gents? I get a little tired of all the talk about the talk. More often than not it's the same people doing both.
Really, just discuss the damned issues. If you can't take the heat,... |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Back on topic, gents? I get a little tired of all the talk about the talk. More often than not it's the same people doing both.
Really, just discuss the damned issues. If you can't take the heat,... |
I'm down. I've been a *beep* lately too.
So, shall we just focus on what should be very, very interesting subjects?
b. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: ... |
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Oh yeah, how is that for a steady hand?
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| I would not exactly characterize it as a group of nice, professional guys, amicably agreeing "Yeah. Gonna be a tight election. Tough call. Best of luck..." |
I never implied that. 2004 was very similar to now. Do you see anyone in either camp declaring that their candidate is gonna crush the other side? See, there are things called polls. The polls in 2004 showed the candidates neck and neck. What Mr. Conservative said is BS, but it suits your purposes to believe him, doesn't it?
Ron Paul has about the same chance of getting the GOP nomination as Jerry Brown had when he ran for the Democratic one. But that's not the point. The point is that when a bunch of Democrat-leaning individuals respond to a poll about Republican candidates, they choose the one that choose the one that comes closest to their positions. In this case, I believe that Ron Paul fits that description. This is no more a disconnect than if you were to choose Lieberman because he happened to be on the Democrat poll. So, keep your rocks in your pockets. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
Ron Paul - 8
Rudy Giuliani - 3
Jim Gilmore - 1
Mike Huckabee - 1
Tom Tancredo - 1
Looks like McCain is pretty much off the radar map these days.. on Daves.. and on most polls. |
McCain and Gulliani appeal to the same voters. If Gullani were not in the race McCain would be the front runner. I voted for McCain in another poll. McCain and Gullani both run neck and neck with any Democratic head to head polls.
I remember several years ago more than a few on this board thought Howard Dean was going to win in a cake walk against Bush, I thought is was ridiculous then, and Ron Paul winning the Republican nomination is even more far out than that.
But you'll see.
It is a fifty fifty election probably and lf the Republicans take Ohio or Pennsylvania (no sure thing in either case) then it is all over. |
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