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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| venus wrote: |
Yeah, yeah the building of a sky scraper near Incheon is very related to the space programme, yes, yes. That was the first thing I thought of when I read about it, yes, yes. Of course I should have known just how obvious it was that my post showed that despite not knowing me ANYONE would be able to see that it represented my subconscious deire to suppress mankind pushing it's boundaries... yes, yes.
It's amazing how CLEAR things become (even your own mind) once you've had Jinu's perspective on them!!!!! |
See, take your head out of your ass. The two are very related as both the building of a mega tall scraper and space travel involve extreme engineering and often end up yielding new technologies or engineering techniques. Mega talls and space travel both involve extreme conditions that must be overcome and this yields techniques that can be applied elsewhere, for example in building earthquake safe high rises for cities like Tokyo. Man, you liberal arts majors shouldnt be calling yourselves University grads. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| venus wrote: |
Yeah, yeah the building of a sky scraper near Incheon is very related to the space programme, yes, yes. That was the first thing I thought of when I read about it, yes, yes. Of course I should have known just how obvious it was that my post showed that despite not knowing me ANYONE would be able to see that it represented my subconscious deire to suppress mankind pushing it's boundaries... yes, yes.
It's amazing how CLEAR things become (even your own mind) once you've had Jinu's perspective on them!!!!! |
See, take your head out of your ass. The two are very related as both the building of a mega tall scraper and space travel involve extreme engineering and often end up yielding new technologies or engineering techniques. Mega talls and space travel both involve extreme conditions that must be overcome and this yields techniques that can be applied elsewhere, for example in building earthquake safe high rises for cities like Tokyo. Man, you liberal arts majors shouldnt be calling yourselves University grads. |
What you don't realise jinju is I was taking the p*ss out of both your self righteous tone and how easily you assumed because I think the tallest buildings thing is a pissing contest (you missed the point that it actually is, just read the article and see how often it is mentioned as a matter of national pride you blind, pompous fool) that I'm against space exploration!
You're either trying to be ironic and ACTING like an idiot for fun, or you are an idiot - albeit one who thinks he's really clever and is able to disguise the fact becasue he can string a few paragraphs together well enough.
Either way - give it a rest man! |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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YOU missed the point which isnt at all surprising to me. The space program was simply an example. I believe you are one of those well-meaning but oh so sorely misguided people who think any sort of extreme engineering is misguided. Lets just shut it all down and give the money to Africa. RIGHT? Its a very common affliction among liberal arts and basket weaving majors. It stems from the fact that you are ignorant of the real benefits that flow from such projects and which can be applied later to other areas.
The differences between you and me are oh so glaring.
You see a space shuttle and see a billion dollars that just flies to space.
I see mankind pushing science to the limits.
You see a skyscraper and see a pissing contest
I see a skyscraper and see engineering pushed to the limits.
You see a formula 1 race and see rich people blowing lots of cash on some silly hobby.
I see a formula 1 race and see engineers creating state of the art technologies that will later appear in cars you and I drive.
In all those examples, and they are only a small subset of examples, you see money thrown away ignorant of the very real benefits that come from man pushing the limits.
Perhaps I can make a suggestion: stick to discussing the latest Oprah Book Club Book of the Month and leave engineering and science threads alone. Its for your own good. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
YOU missed the point which isnt at all surprising to me. The space program was simply an example. I believe you are one of those well-meaning but oh so sorely misguided people who think any sort of extreme engineering is misguided. Lets just shut it all down and give the money to Africa. RIGHT? Its a very common affliction among liberal arts and basket weaving majors. It stems from the fact that you are ignorant of the real benefits that flow from such projects and which can be applied later to other areas.
The differences between you and me are oh so glaring.
You see a space shuttle and see a billion dollars that just flies to space.
I see mankind pushing science to the limits.
You see a skyscraper and see a pissing contest
I see a skyscraper and see engineering pushed to the limits.
You see a formula 1 race and see rich people blowing lots of cash on some silly hobby.
I see a formula 1 race and see engineers creating state of the art technologies that will later appear in cars you and I drive.
In all those examples, and they are only a small subset of examples, you see money thrown away ignorant of the very real benefits that come from man pushing the limits.
Perhaps I can make a suggestion: stick to discussing the latest Oprah Book Club Book of the Month and leave engineering and science threads alone. Its for your own good. |
You are out of your f*cking mind.
Either that or just trying to wind me up.
Either way, again - stop it.
How the f*ck can you make assumptions about what I think about pushing technological boundaries you fool?
You see a smart, intelligent guy in the mirror.
I stand behind you and see an arrogant, presumptuous, offensive fool who also just so hapens to dodge challenges in other threads when he's been proven wrong or can't refute yet gladly pushes glib bombast based on no evidence whatsoever.
Keep it up actually, it's good for a laugh if nothing else.
I have a suggestion. Continue being a sad, anal geek and not a well rounded, intelligent human being. It's not for your own good - but hey - we need people like you to laugh at. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Am I winding you up? Not my intention, I stopped playing with wind up toys LOOOOONG ago....
I can make assumptions about you because you are as transparent as air.
You say I dodge challenges. I dont really care about on-line challenges, you may but I dont concern myself with them. There are threads I simply get bored off after the same thing gets posted over and over again.
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You see a smart, intelligent guy in the mirror.
I stand behind you and see an arrogant, presumptuous, offensive fool |
1. Dont stand behind me
2. You see yourself in the mirror? |
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splok
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| Fierce competition will ensure the building is built well because Samsung's competitors will not simply give up the fight. Its pure capitalistic competition..isnt it beautiful? |
Fierce competition will ensure that the project will go to whoever most optimistic about their budget. Well, not exactly, but it's not like the highest bidder wins often. Competitive budget setting is often what causes corner cutting in the first place.
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And who says bulding in the US are built to the highest standards anyway? |
No one in this thread has, but I suppose it makes it easier when you simply invent the side you are trying to debate. I implied that safety regulations are more stringent in New York than in Seoul, which is a vastly different assertion. If you can dispute that, feel free, but at least counter the appropriate point. |
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:47 am Post subject: |
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I hope they (the Koreans) get some outside help to build these buildings because everything that I have seen built here is cr@p. Who the heell pours concrete in the pouring rain? Where are the building inspectors during the construction process? Look what happened years ago when the department store collapsed... Nobody there to oversee what the heell is going on. I would be scared shiitless to go in a 2000ft Korean built skyscraper. Giving me chicken skin thinking about it. Stick to cell phones and other non-life threatening endeavors.
Additionally, anyone who has ever worked in construction knows that building guidelines and regulations in the US are very stringent, whereas in Korea, non-existent! |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Am I winding you up? Not my intention, I stopped playing with wind up toys LOOOOONG ago....
I can make assumptions about you because you are as transparent as air.
You say I dodge challenges. I dont really care about on-line challenges, you may but I dont concern myself with them. There are threads I simply get bored off after the same thing gets posted over and over again.
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You see a smart, intelligent guy in the mirror.
I stand behind you and see an arrogant, presumptuous, offensive fool |
1. Dont stand behind me
2. You see yourself in the mirror? |
I think the lady doth protest to much... |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| cangel wrote: |
| I would be scared shiitless to go in a 2000ft Korean built skyscraper |
The Petronas Towers are beautifully built. No reason to fear going in. |
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Trust me, if Koreans built the towers there were recognized international leaders, other than Koreans, making sure the job was done right. It's not uncommon for foreign specialists to oversee jobs around the world. Personally, Korean construction is NOT at an 1st world standard. Yes, they are very good at a few things to include ship building but I wouldn't trust Koreans to make any skyscraper. |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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"A tall building means pride," said Kim Sang-dae, a professor of architectural engineering at Korea University in Seoul. "It is a message to the world, that we are now equal to you and that we are not a poor country anymore."
Man, that's just pathetic.  |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| venus wrote: |
| This whole tallest building thing is so "My d*ck is bigger than yours, na na na na na..." |
Acvtually its not, but then again, you probably think space program is pointless too. Hey, you probably think anything that pushes the boundries of what we can do is pointless. |
Higher than high skyscrapers have been technically possible for many years and lots of workable designs have been put forward in other countries. Although skycrapers can make certain parcels of downtown real estate pay handsome returns, there's another point where construction costs - going higher and higher - actually start to erode the initial investment. So to proceed you need either dirt-cheap labor and materials, a willingness to subvert safety standards, a 'who cares how much we lose - our 'phallus' will be bigger' attitude or all of the above. Personally I find most of them are urban eyesores. |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: |
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I think the lady doth protest to much... |
and Jinju wins... |
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