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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject:

Well Jinju, there's a reason we thought that of you. You seem to have a very black and white view of the world. And you apologize for everything Korea does. It's always bad bad bad Japan, good good good Korea.

jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject:

Ilsanman wrote:

Well Jinju, there's a reason we thought that of you. You seem to have a very black and white view of the world. And you apologize for everything Korea does. It's always bad bad bad Japan, good good good Korea.

I have never apologized for this administration and I dont apologize for everything Korea does.

As far as a black and white view, Im proud of it. It means that I have principles I stand by, I dont play the cultural or moral relativism game, I dont give a free pass to countries just because they are big trading partners or they happen to be where my wife comes from. If Korea does something I diagree with, I call them on it. That includes the failed Sunshine policy. if Japan does something (trying to streal Dokdo) or avoids doing something (give a meaningful and honest apology to victims of its criminal past) I call them on that too. I wouldnt have it any other way.

The_Conservative

Joined: 15 Mar 2007

Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject:

Gopher wrote:

jinju wrote:

Wow, the lefties with all their talk about...

You violated their primary rule, Jinju: never permit anyone to shift the focus and especially the blame for all that is wrong and unholy in the world from America to anybody else -- not for a moment.

Now now Gopher you know very well that America is to blame for every ill that besets the world....and not just those but every ill since time began.

I hear that in the Garden of Eden, it wasn't really a snake but an American neo-con.... Laughing

The_Conservative

Joined: 15 Mar 2007

Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:53 pm Post subject:

freethought wrote:

[. To single out China shows a 'bias' or agenda, and is a bad way to start a discussion.

I.

But to single out America doesn't?

stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:50 am Post subject:

Ilsanman wrote:

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Precisely the case. He's probably some gyopo or Korean nationalist.

luvnpeas

Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:24 am Post subject:

luvnpeas wrote:

I find it interesting that the complaining about criticism of the US here is not actually focusing on whether the criticism is accurate...

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First, I find it interesting that on a thread that aims to critique Chinese foreign policy, you object to others' complaining about your critiques re: American foreign policy. Clear case of U.S.-centrism.

Clear case of Huh? You were discussing the topic of people criticizing the US more than China before I ever read this thread. I didn't critique US foreign policy here, I merely told you why it makes sense for Americans to be more critical of America than of China. If you don't want to compare criticism of the US and China, then don't.

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Secondly, to address your point, above: that is because many of us find that "the criticism" exceeds the evidence -- by a longshot -- and it exceeds the bounds of reasonable critique as well.

Nuh-uh. Your opinions exceed the bounds of reasonable critique.

See how that works?

cangel

Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:41 am Post subject:

OP displaying supreme idiocy...

Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:47 am Post subject:

The_Conservative wrote:

freethought wrote:

To single out China shows a 'bias' or agenda, and is a bad way to start a discussion.

But to single out America doesn't?

igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:56 am Post subject: Re: China supports mass gang rapes

jinju wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070528/ap_on_re_mi_ea/darfur_s_misery

By protecting the Sudanese government the Chinese are in effect supporting mass gang rapes of women in Darfour.

Yet another example of the effects China has on the world today.

All too symptomatic of global fascism.

Beijing's further complicity in such gross human rights ought to guarantee complete silence from Sudan on matters such as China's ongoing liberation "campaign" in TIBET.

See no evil (you scratch my back ... ) Twisted Evil

Summer Wine

Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:53 am Post subject:

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I didn't critique US foreign policy here, I merely told you why it makes sense for Americans to be more critical of America than of China.

I wish certain people had been more critical of Nazism in 1939 than supportive of isolatinism, but they weren't. I never met my Grandfather because they weren't so if it is useful to criticise a rising danger rather than a dying one, than I say go for it.

Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:12 am Post subject:

Then why do you apologize for them stealing Japan's land and murdering innocent civilians?

Why do you call Japan on wanting their rightful land back?

jinju wrote:

Ilsanman wrote:

Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject:

luvnpeas wrote:

I merely told you why...

Nuh-uh. You came here complaining about "patriotic Americans chanting about America's greatness" and proclaimed that you had appointed yourself the holy one whose duty it was to bring attention to "America's lies." You failed entirely to address the issue this thread raises. And this is most likely because U.S.-centrism guides your thoughtworld, Luvnpeas.

And nuh-uh, uh-uh. Your opinions exceed the bounds of reasonable critique.

Yes, I see how this works. And I like it. Wink

Setting that aside and moving on...this is a current events message board. Not limited to American current events. So, yes, it is relevant to create threads that treat Beijing's complicity in the Sudan.

Now many here may not want to read or contribute to such a thread, because they cannot stand taking the spotlight off America for even a moment. But c'est la vie.

jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:

Ilsanman wrote:

Then why do you apologize for them stealing Japan's land and murdering innocent civilians?

Why do you deny that Japan sexually enslaved thousands of women?

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Why do you call Japan on wanting their rightful land back?

Because it isnt theirs. Maybe because I understand what its like to your country taken over by a hostile enemy, land stolen and then claims made on it later. Japanese claims on Dokdo rival Hitler's claims on Poland in both their viciousness and depravity. And you are like a little Brown Shirt. You and your sock puppet Guri_Guy

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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject:

Yep. Keep those hate fires burning Jinju. Here's a little cut and paste for you. Read it and weep you internet addicted loser. Wink

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There is a dictum in Internet culture called Godwin's Law (after Mike Godwin, a lawyer who coined the maxim), which posits that the longer an online discussion persists, the more likely it is that someone will compare something to the Nazis or Hitler.

According to the online encyclopedia Wikipedia, "There is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/21/AR2005062101753.html

jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject:

Guri Guy wrote:

Yep. Keep those hate fires burning Jinju. Here's a little cut and paste for you. Read it and weep you internet addicted loser. Wink

Tell me how it is different. Just like in Korea, Poland experienced a take over by a foreign country. Well 3 actually but lets just stick to the basics. Both in Korea and in Poland during the 3 partitions foreign powers came in by force but also by complicity from the establishment. When Poland regained independence around the end of WWI it took back land that was taken from it during the partitions between 1772 and 1795. When Hitler came to power he based his attack on Poland on reclaiming land that was German from the time of the partitions but Polish prior to that (namely Pomerania and the so called Danzig Corridor). I see the situation basically the same here in Korea. Japan was "invited" to take over Korea by corrupt traitors, it took Dokdo after the take over and is now trying to lay claim to the land much like Hitler in the late 1930s. You can quote Goodwin's law but the analogy applies very well.

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