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Adventurer
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: Oriental Medicine in the Seoul area and English speaking |
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Can someone tell me if there are oriental doctors that deal with issues such as detoxification, some kind of cleanse, simple health issues...
I'm into alternative medicine. How are the prices out there? What's it like? Any success with that stuff in Korea? I've dabbled in alternative medicine in Canada and the U.S. with some interesting results. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:53 am Post subject: |
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I've been to the Jaseng Oriental Clinic (in Apgujeong...) I think it's the largest oriental clinic in Korea, and the guy in charge of their "Wellness Center/International Clinic, Dr. Raymond Royer (an Austrian) speaks both English and Korean fluently...
They make a lot of traditional herbal remedies, but those are not (yet) covered by national health insurance so it gets a little expensive for extended treatments (beyond acupuncture and some other procedures that are covered...)
Here's their website: http://www.jaseng.net/menu/home/home_1/home_1/Read.asp
This is one of their phone numbers: 02-3218-2000
I think one is a "direct line" to their Wellness Center: 02-3218-2167. |
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wylies99
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Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| They speak English? |
I dated one that spoke excellent English.
To the OP: you do know there is nothing behind detox, right? You're kind of just throwing your money away. Your body is pretty good at detoxing itself. About the only thing it has a hard time with is heavy metals. And for that there's chelation but you only want to do that when you get a toxic load.
What toxins do you think are being stored in the human body that have to be gotten rid of? And how do you think a detox regime accomplishes this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4616603.stm
One of the weirder detox scams I've seen in Korea is this detox foot bath. It's very impressive. You put your feet in, run the machine, and soon the water turns dark. All those toxins! First, if all those toxins were really in your body, you'd probably be dead. A bit of that got up to your brain, stroke city. As well, these machines when run without any human body part in them turn the water dark regardless. So. Scam. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| wylies99 wrote: |
| They speak English? |
I dated one that spoke excellent English.
To the OP: you do know there is nothing behind detox, right? You're kind of just throwing your money away. Your body is pretty good at detoxing itself. About the only thing it has a hard time with is heavy metals. And for that there's chelation but you only want to do that when you get a toxic load.
What toxins do you think are being stored in the human body that have to be gotten rid of? And how do you think a detox regime accomplishes this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4616603.stm
One of the weirder detox scams I've seen in Korea is this detox foot bath. It's very impressive. You put your feet in, run the machine, and soon the water turns dark. All those toxins! First, if all those toxins were really in your body, you'd probably be dead. A bit of that got up to your brain, stroke city. As well, these machines when run without any human body part in them turn the water dark regardless. So. Scam. |
It is not really about detoxifying that I really need. I am not sure how to explain this. I have to basically, for a while, avoid carbs such as bread, sugar, fruits, and eat mostly protein, eat probiotics like kimchee to restore some internal balance. I also drink a lot of this tea called Pau D'arco. I was just wondering if there was something in Oriental medicine that would be helpful. I definitely can't drink beer for a long while.
If I do touch alcohol it will have to be straight liquor. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| eat probiotics like kimchee to restore some internal balance |
I think the problem with probiotics is we all have our own unique bacterial flora in our intestines. Eating foods with bacteria (like yogurt or kimchi) isn't like calcium for the bone. Most of it will be digested versus incorporated into our intestinal flora. The best way to add bacteria to your intestines is get the bacteria from a source close to your home. That source is members of your family. And that means, literally, eating their poo. There was a study recently that determined your wife's poo basically has the most efficacious probiotics.
If you're really interested in what medical science has to say about probiotics (versus the claims of people merely interested in selling you probiotic products), check out episode 16 of the Quackcast. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Before you buy into mindmetoo's idea, I can also sell you some alternative medicine products. It's not exactly your wife's poo but it's just as healthy.
Alright, if you really want Oriental medicine, I can make one of my cats into a soup. Great for agility. Want the orange one or the grey one? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Adventurer wrote: |
| eat probiotics like kimchee to restore some internal balance |
I think the problem with probiotics is we all have our own unique bacterial flora in our intestines. Eating foods with bacteria (like yogurt or kimchi) isn't like calcium for the bone. Most of it will be digested versus incorporated into our intestinal flora. The best way to add bacteria to your intestines is get the bacteria from a source close to your home. That source is members of your family. And that means, literally, eating their poo. There was a study recently that determined your wife's poo basically has the most efficacious probiotics.
If you're really interested in what medical science has to say about probiotics (versus the claims of people merely interested in selling you probiotic products), check out episode 16 of the Quackcast. |
Forget I asked, man. Eating your family's poo? What the hell is that all about. Rteacher gave me some good info. Who the hell is going to eat their family's poo? Next, are we going to be like dogs and sniff each others behinds? I know this is Dave's ESL, but let's not go too far. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Adventurer wrote: |
| eat probiotics like kimchee to restore some internal balance |
I think the problem with probiotics is we all have our own unique bacterial flora in our intestines. Eating foods with bacteria (like yogurt or kimchi) isn't like calcium for the bone. Most of it will be digested versus incorporated into our intestinal flora. The best way to add bacteria to your intestines is get the bacteria from a source close to your home. That source is members of your family. And that means, literally, eating their poo. There was a study recently that determined your wife's poo basically has the most efficacious probiotics.
If you're really interested in what medical science has to say about probiotics (versus the claims of people merely interested in selling you probiotic products), check out episode 16 of the Quackcast. |
Forget I asked, man. Eating your family's poo? What the hell is that all about. Rteacher gave me some good info. Who the hell is going to eat their family's poo? Next, are we going to be like dogs and sniff each others behinds? I know this is Dave's ESL, but let's not go too far. |
Mind you I'm not advising it  Just the guy on the quackcast said a study found that that's about the closest you're going to get to your own intestinal flora. Beyond that, there doesn't appear to be any good scientific evidence that probiotics can do anything to replace or enhance your intestinal flora. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Alright, if you really want Oriental medicine, I can make one of my cats into a soup. Great for agility. Want the orange one or the grey one? |
The orange one would have more Vitamin C, right? |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
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| Alright, if you really want Oriental medicine, I can make one of my cats into a soup. Great for agility. Want the orange one or the grey one? |
The orange one would have more Vitamin C, right? |
I am going to check out this oriental medicine soon... and see what it's like. The visit is about 10 bucks. That's not bad. |
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