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thewolf
Joined: 30 Apr 2007
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: best bang for the buck: thailand or vietnam? |
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i've shortened my summer vacation list to thailand & vietnam. i've found similar rates for airfare. i am equally interested in each destination for travel.
can anyone who has traveled through both these countries offer advice? most intriguing location? cheapest travel? easiest country for to & fro travel? |
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Tony_Balony

Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Thailand for R&R. Vietnam for that "country on the move" feel. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: |
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It's too subjective (as most comparitives always are).
I prefer Vietnam.
Biggest bang for the buck.. uhmm.. its southeast asia.. why would 'bang for buck' be a factor? Choose what appeals to you more.. $-wise it's more or less the same depending on what you spend your money on. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Tiger Beer wrote: |
It's too subjective (as most comparitives always are).
I prefer Vietnam.
Biggest bang for the buck.. uhmm.. its southeast asia.. why would 'bang for buck' be a factor? Choose what appeals to you more.. $-wise it's more or less the same depending on what you spend your money on. |
Well, Vietnam is much cheaper for most everything. I am really surprised at how prices have gone up in Bangkok, and Thailand in general. The dollar per bhat rate has fallen about 20%, and I noticed the other day that it has stayed stronger vis a vis the dong. How it compares to the won these days I don't know. But the increase in prices in Thailand is in base bhat prices- the exchange rate just adds insult to injury to those spending dollars.
Thailand is easy fun and good value. Vietnam asks more of you, but there are great rewards for the effort. |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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It is just bad timing to post something contrary to the desultude�s post above because I think the points are valid
However, I stayed in Hanoi and I thought everything was more expensive than in Thailand. Hotels being the most clear example. You can find basic very cheap accommodations in both places, but if you want to move up to step or two you get much better value for you money in Thailand.
The cost of food in both places is about the same, but in Thailand you have more budget choices. The food in Hanoi was excellent and a good value for the money, but it was more mid level prices than budget. In Thailand good cheap food can be found easily.
Vietnam is an excellent destination, but it is a little tougher for a tourist. Both places have there share of locals who will try to hustle tourists for higher prices. Vietnam is the gold medal winner in that department.
As a first time traveler to S.E. Asia looking to travel on a budget�.. I would recommend Thailand hands down. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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passport220 wrote: |
It is just bad timing to post something contrary to the desultude’s post above because I think the points are valid
However, I stayed in Hanoi and I thought everything was more expensive than in Thailand. Hotels being the most clear example. You can find basic very cheap accommodations in both places, but if you want to move up to step or two you get much better value for you money in Thailand.
The cost of food in both places is about the same, but in Thailand you have more budget choices. The food in Hanoi was excellent and a good value for the money, but it was more mid level prices than budget. In Thailand good cheap food can be found easily. |
I can't relate to anything you have said here. How do you find food in Vietnam to be mid-range? At most places you get a nice meal for about $2 tops. How is $15 for a really nice hotel expensive?
My girlfriend and I went to Vietnam for 3 weeks two years ago. With flight and everything included from the massive amounts of shopping we did to staying in nicer hotels with pools usually, we spent 2.1 million collectively. Vietnam is ridiculously cheap. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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I really didn't like Vietnam, constant touts, noisy and traffic.
If I were you, I'd spring for a cheap flight up to Udon Thani (sp?) from Bangkok and then go to Laos. It has a lot of the charms of Thailand, the french influence like in Vietnam but without the costs or hassles of a 'touristy' country. |
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bosintang

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree with Passport. If you're on a strict low-end budget, then it doesn't really matter which country you're in, both are cheap. But if you're looking for mid-range or upscale hotels, food, and transportation, you'll get better bang for your money in Thailand.
As well, shopping is definitely better and cheaper in Thailand.
Overall, Thailand just has better tourist infrastructure and a more free-market economy. You have more choice available. |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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ajgeddes wrote: |
I can't relate to anything you have said here. How do you find food in Vietnam to be mid-range? At most places you get a nice meal for about $2 tops. How is $15 for a really nice hotel expensive?
My girlfriend and I went to Vietnam for 3 weeks two years ago. With flight and everything included from the massive amounts of shopping we did to staying in nicer hotels with pools usually, we spent 2.1 million collectively. Vietnam is ridiculously cheap. |
When I went to Vietnam I spent my time in Hanoi alone most of it in the French Old Quarter (Q. Hoan Kiem - I think is the local name).
Curious�.where you in Hanoi or H.C.M.C.? |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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passport220 wrote: |
ajgeddes wrote: |
I can't relate to anything you have said here. How do you find food in Vietnam to be mid-range? At most places you get a nice meal for about $2 tops. How is $15 for a really nice hotel expensive?
My girlfriend and I went to Vietnam for 3 weeks two years ago. With flight and everything included from the massive amounts of shopping we did to staying in nicer hotels with pools usually, we spent 2.1 million collectively. Vietnam is ridiculously cheap. |
When I went to Vietnam I spent my time in Hanoi alone most of it in the French Old Quarter (Q. Hoan Kiem - I think is the local name).
Curious….where you in Hanoi or H.C.M.C.? |
Most of my time was in Hanoi in the same area you were in. I never went south of Hoi An. I forgot to add, we often took the expensive route when taking tours and went more with the luxury side of things and we still only spent 2.1 million. |
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thewolf
Joined: 30 Apr 2007
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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crazylemongirl-
did you encounter any difficulty entering laos from thailand? did you take a bus/train? i've just begun the research - any insight you can provide would be much appreciated. do i need a visa?
i thought about thailand-to-cambodia but i've been advised by friends that it's a tourist trap and not worth the hassle.
currently - my plan is to fly in and out of bangkok.
thanks so much for all the suggestions! |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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For some weird reason it was cheaper for me to fly directly to Laos on thai air than it was to fly to bangkok! You do need a visa but you can get them on arrival at the airport or at the friendship bridge linking laos and northern thailand.
For more info I recommend this site:
http://www.travelfish.org/country/laos |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I have taken the overnight train from Bangkok to Nong Khai (2nd class, a/c). It is cheap and comfortable however, I should say I am a �train person�. I like travelling on Thai trains to see the countryside when I travel.
The Nong Khai station is very near the Lao / Thai boarder (linked by the Friendship bridge). When you get off the train take a tuk-tuk for about 20 baht - you just have to follow the crowd, a lot of other people will be going to the boarder�..it is all somewhat �programmed�. As CLG said you can get a visa on the spot at the boarder, the cost is around $20-$25 usd. |
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thewolf
Joined: 30 Apr 2007
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for the advice!
i decided to fly into bangkok/out of laos
of course, the travel agents tell me everything is booked. i'm waitlisted and the prices continue to escalate.
what's the deal? are they pulling my chain? i realize the demand is high and they can charge ridiculous prices...is this about the way things roll? they offer a rate, you agree to book, then they tell you there is no room and it will be more expensive? |
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Drew345

Joined: 24 May 2005
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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I've been to Thailand and Vietnam a few times and prefer Thailand. Vietnam just got stressful with the constant touts and scam factor.
You are mentioning Laos and Cambidia. If you are adventurous, fly to Ubon Rachathani (different from Udon Thani) and cross into southern Laos. Then down the Maekong river into Cambodia. Then back from Cambodia to Thailand (less stressful that direction). That would be a nice trip, a lot of travel.
An easier trip would be Fly train to Udon Thani, Nong Khai, cross to Laos and Luang Phrabang, as crazylemon mentioned.
All of these trips would be better in the cool season. It is hard to beat Koh Samui for a trip in July or August.
Drew |
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