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Treefarmer
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 Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: Distance learning (CELTA) |
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Since I have a lot of free time, I'm quite interested in doing the written parts of my CELTA while i'm out in Korea
can anyone give me adivce, tips, recommendations etc?
is it seen as less valuable than the 6 week one most people seem to do?
is it pricey? which are the best schools etc
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: just a thought... |
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| I would tend to think that looking back after you have already enrolled and paid your money is not the time to be asking the questions you presented...You will find good and bad about every program , so it is up to the buyer...if you think what you are taking is good then it is good for you... |
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mrsquirrel
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| You can do a CELTA by distance now? Must be going downhill. |
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cubanlord
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Location: In Japan!
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Distance learning (CELTA) |
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| Treefarmer wrote: |
| Since I have a lot of free time, I'm quite interested in doing the written parts of my CELTA while i'm out in Korea |
You cannot do a part time CELTA in Korea! That is fact.
| Treefarmer wrote: |
| can anyone give me adivce, tips, recommendations etc? |
Contact the British Council in Seoul. They provide a CELTA Course for teachers.
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| is it seen as less valuable than the 6 week one most people seem to do? |
It is not six weeks but four weeks full time course. I suggest you research before you take the CELTA Course.
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| is it pricey? which are the best schools etc |
It is about 2.2 million won but could have increased in price but it is considered the most professional qualification to complement your experience. |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| Hmm ... guess that got him quiet. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:03 am Post subject: |
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CELTA cannot be done by distance anywhere in the world.
Utterly impossible.
It's not that kind of thing.
80% of the workload is teaching sessions supervised by well-experienced degreed teachers.
All CELTA certificate programs are well-monitored by Cambridge overseers to ensure the strict standards are upheld. |
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Treefarmer
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Treefarmer wrote: |
| ..there is a course you can do online |
there are PLENTY of ESL certificate programs online/distance.... countless
but there are absolutely NONE that offer the CELTA (hence the misleading thread title)
nor the Trinity certificate, to mention the two that stand head and shoulders over most others in terms of reputation, quality control and actual teaching experience/lesson feedback.
Of course, in Korea any certificate program will likely do. |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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You can, however, do the DELTA by correspondence.
And I don't think the BC offers it since James Forrest left. He's at International Graduate School of English in Seoul now, I believe, and they are offering the course. |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| gypsyfish wrote: |
You can, however, do the DELTA by correspondence.
And I don't think the BC offers it since James Forrest left. He's at International Graduate School of English in Seoul now, I believe, and they are offering the course. |
That is incorrect, they still offer the Delta at the BC. I went on the IGSE website and could not find anything about the Delta being offered there but I did notice that they offer the Celta to teachers.
http://www.thedistancedelta.com/index.cfm
Please check this website above. As you will note, it is approved via the BC so please check your information. |
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Treefarmer
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| Treefarmer wrote: |
| ..there is a course you can do online |
there are PLENTY of ESL certificate programs online/distance.... countless
but there are absolutely NONE that offer the CELTA (hence the misleading thread title)
nor the Trinity certificate, to mention the two that stand head and shoulders over most others in terms of reputation, quality control and actual teaching experience/lesson feedback.
Of course, in Korea any certificate program will likely do. |
Oh, ok, thanks
So do you think it's worth doing one, or just wait till I have the time to do a CELTA? |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| Treefarmer wrote: |
| So do you think it's worth doing one, or just wait till I have the time to do a CELTA? |
DEPENDS entirely on why you want to get a certificate, what you hope it to provide.
The CELTA is hard (a high school teacher with a dozen years teaching experience failed when I took it, only 1 to not pass of the 9 of us, largely because his bad habits were so ingrained he couldn't adapt to the CELTA method) but worth it for teaching classes, especially larger classes, in a participatory, engaged way where the teacher's role is to facilitate student involvement not talk endlessly while students passively listen. CELTA is first and foremost a METHOD, very much a skills-based approach to a certificate in ESL. It is highly respected in Europe and in major cities around the world in the ESL world, except in Japan and Korea, where it's just starting to get any attention (public school positions pay more for "CELTA or its equivalent" but what is specified as its equivalent is pretty lax).
If you set on a cheaper, distance option for whatever reason, and especially if you're Canadian, then I recommend the certificate through the University of Saskatchewan, CERTESL:
http://www.extension.usask.ca/ExtensionDivision/credit/Certificate/CERTESL.html |
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Treefarmer
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| Treefarmer wrote: |
| So do you think it's worth doing one, or just wait till I have the time to do a CELTA? |
DEPENDS entirely on why you want to get a certificate, what you hope it to provide.
The CELTA is hard (a high school teacher with a dozen years teaching experience failed when I took it, only 1 to not pass of the 9 of us, largely because his bad habits were so ingrained he couldn't adapt to the CELTA method) but worth it for teaching classes, especially larger classes, in a participatory, engaged way where the teacher's role is to facilitate student involvement not talk endlessly while students passively listen. CELTA is first and foremost a METHOD, very much a skills-based approach to a certificate in ESL. It is highly respected in Europe and in major cities around the world in the ESL world, except in Japan and Korea, where it's just starting to get any attention (public school positions pay more for "CELTA or its equivalent" but what is specified as its equivalent is pretty lax).
If you set on a cheaper, distance option for whatever reason, and especially if you're Canadian, then I recommend the certificate through the University of Saskatchewan, CERTESL:
http://www.extension.usask.ca/ExtensionDivision/credit/Certificate/CERTESL.html |
I'm English, I've taught in Korea for a couple of years, and I think I'm ok at teaching, but I need to learn a lot, when I speak to qualified ESL teachers it's kind of obvious that I couldn't teach a lot of stuff because I haven't done the course (my knowledge of grammatical terms is pretty basic) so I guess it would be worth the extra time and money to do the CELTA
although I may do one online as well since they are pretty cheap, and it can't hurt....
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| Whistleblower wrote: |
| gypsyfish wrote: |
You can, however, do the DELTA by correspondence.
And I don't think the BC offers it since James Forrest left. He's at International Graduate School of English in Seoul now, I believe, and they are offering the course. |
That is incorrect, they still offer the Delta at the BC. I went on the IGSE website and could not find anything about the Delta being offered there but I did notice that they offer the Celta to teachers.
http://www.thedistancedelta.com/index.cfm
Please check this website above. As you will note, it is approved via the BC so please check your information. |
I didn't say you can't do the DELTA at the BC, I said that it was available by correspondence. And I didn't say that the DELTA was available at IGSE; I said that CELTA was offered there.
As I reread what I wrote, I can see where you might have misunderstood because I didn't explicitly say CELTA in my second paragraph. Since the topic was about the CELTA, I didn't think it was necessary. Sorry for the misunderstanding. |
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