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boatofcar



Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Location: Sheffield, UK

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Is this too much to ask? Reply with quote

I'm currently a teacher in the US with four years experience. I'd like a hagwon job in Seoul starting in August with a salary of at least 2.3 a month. Do you think that's unreasonable given my qualifications?
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KWellsDear



Joined: 26 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would try for more, given your teaching experience. I taught in the U.S. for one year before I came to Korea and got 2.4 + housing allowance.
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boatofcar



Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Location: Sheffield, UK

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you teach in Seoul? I was under the (perhaps false) impression that you'd have to go to Incheon or further out to make that kind of dough.
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KWellsDear



Joined: 26 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it was just south of Seoul in Bundang. I liked living there and it's not that far of subway ride. The bus to Seoul only took thirty minutes or so.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to hogwons after teaching for three years in the States.

Never ever ever again.

I would really suggest you go for a uni or public school position, where people will actually appreciate your qualifications rather than resenting them.
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420bro



Joined: 15 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: dont sell yourself short Reply with quote

I would view the hagwon as a last resort. Go for a uni job or a public school first. You can make 2.3 in the latter of these two. If nothing works out for you then go for a hagwon (after doing some research on the school of course). I cant think of any reason to make a hagwon your first choice.
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boatofcar



Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Location: Sheffield, UK

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: dont sell yourself short Reply with quote

420bro wrote:
I would view the hagwon as a last resort. Go for a uni job or a public school first. You can make 2.3 in the latter of these two. If nothing works out for you then go for a hagwon (after doing some research on the school of course). I cant think of any reason to make a hagwon your first choice.


Here are the two reasons I was thinking hagwon over public; feel free to correct me on any of these:

1. More foreign teachers, so they could show me around and give me some tips...?

2. Hours seem better. 3pm-10pm over 9am-4pm. I'd like to try not having to get up early in the morning, just to see how it feels.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I went to hogwons after teaching for three years in the States.

Never ever ever again.

I would really suggest you go for a uni or public school position, where people will actually appreciate your qualifications rather than resenting them.


Agreed. Stay away from hogwans, unless as a last resort.
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jellobean



Joined: 14 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really want Hagwon hours, you could try Polyschool's evening program (2-9 I think). But they really expect you to work hard. I have known serious teachers that like these schools and there was another teacher from there that posted recently that she likes her job.

Be very very careful with hagwons. I do know 3 or 4 people that have sweet hagwon gigs and like them, but they are the lucky minority and most of them got the jobs in-country and heard about them from friends.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: dont sell yourself short Reply with quote

boatofcar wrote:

1. More foreign teachers, so they could show me around and give me some tips...?

2. Hours seem better. 3pm-10pm over 9am-4pm. I'd like to try not having to get up early in the morning, just to see how it feels.


OK, it can be isolating to be the only FT at a school, but it's not hard to get shown around and get some advice. You can meet foreigners in Seoul. Now, frankly, I have more Korean friends than foreign friends, but when you first get here, it's usually foreigners you get to know.

I hate working late hours because I do something else during the evenings, but yeah, those are hogwon working hours.
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KWellsDear



Joined: 26 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you on the hours but I would advise you to come to Korea and check out your prospective place of employment before you sign a contract. You should talk to the the foreign teachers as well and see if they are happy. Hagwans can be a great place to teach but the majority of them are real crap. The only way to know for sure it to check it out for yourself. Many places it just boils down to how much you are willing to put up with and if you stand up for yourself. Personally, I don't like mine but my husband couldn't be happier with his.
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