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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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 Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:09 am Post subject: So...who's an organ donor? |
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I just read this article and it got me thinking about organ donation. I'm currently not listed as a donor on my license back home. But when I go back, I will sign up. My family knows that I want to be an organ donor, so I don't think it will be a problem. I figure what do I need my organs for?
Contestants Vie for Kidney on Dutch Reality TV
Government Condemns Show; Station Argues Program Will Raise Awareness
By AMMU KANNAMPILLY and FABIOLA ANTEZANA
May 29, 2007
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For most patients around the world in need of a kidney, life is an interminable waiting game for an elusive matching donor.
The Netherlands is no different. According to Bert Elbertse, publicity director for the leading Dutch health organization, NIGZ, waiting lists for a kidney stretch to a grueling four and a half years, on average.
But for one Dutch citizen, the wait just got shorter.
This Friday three patients will compete to receive a kidney from a terminally ill young woman, 37-year-old "Lisa."
Dutch TV channel BNN and the producers of the controversial U.K.-based reality show "Big Brother" have come together to produce "Big Donor Show."
The program, which will be broadcast live on BNN this Friday, will show the three "contestants" (each of whom is a match for Lisa's organs) vying for one of her kidneys.
Unhappy with the prevailing policy on donor anonymity in the Netherlands, Lisa decided that she wanted to know the person who would receive her kidney while she was still alive.
On the show, the three prospective recipients will share details of their lives and discuss the day-to-day challenges they face. The 90-minute broadcast will also feature interviews with each candidate's family and friends.
All this in a bid to elicit sympathy not just from Lisa, but, more importantly, the viewers.
Executives Defend Show
When ABCNEWS.com contacted Laurens Drillich, BNN chairman, he acknowledged that "the program is tasteless." But, he added, "the reality of having to wait years for organs is much more tasteless, in my opinion."
"At least in this case," he said, "the contestants in the show have a 33 percent chance of getting a new kidney. They would have to wait much longer in real life for the same deal."
Dutch politicians and media commentators have been quick to censure BNN for exploiting such a serious issue for a ratings grab.
More here...
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=3222844&page=1 |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Jeeezus... Sounds crass, and is. If they run around doing, "Damn, I didn't get the kidney" interviews then there is precious little justification of awareness left and a lot more ambulance chasing sensationalism.
Still, it's a step towards us getting televised executions, and from there it's only a hop, skip and jump to Running Man and Ultimate Survivor: Battle Royale. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: |
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I am and have told my family and boyfriend that I don't want to be on life support and if that is the case, carve me up! They can use me for whatever they want, just think about using your eyes to give a child a chance to see. There is no reason or excuse not to donate, its not like you are going to use this stuff anyway.
As for the TV program I watched an interview with the producers on the CBC today and their point was a good one, even if you disagree with the show, the fact that it has the world talking about organ donation means its a success. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
I am and have told my family and boyfriend that I don't want to be on life support and if that is the case, carve me up! They can use me for whatever they want, just think about using your eyes to give a child a chance to see. There is no reason or excuse not to donate, its not like you are going to use this stuff anyway.
As for the TV program I watched an interview with the producers on the CBC today and their point was a good one, even if you disagree with the show, the fact that it has the world talking about organ donation means its a success. |
That's BS and you know it.
It's all about making money. The producers tell people that it's about "raising awareness for organ donation," but it isn't. It's about getting viewers and making money.
As an opponent of big business, I thought you might have seen through that weak charade to the truth.
I guess not. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| I am and have told my family and boyfriend that I don't want to be on life support and if that is the case, carve me up! They can use me for whatever they want, just think about using your eyes to give a child a chance to see. There is no reason or excuse not to donate, its not like you are going to use this stuff anyway. |
Now things may have changed in Canada or at least in Ontario but best I can understand signing your donor card on your license actually carries no legal weight. Your family has the final decision about your organs. So, indeed, it is best to make perfectly clear with your next of kin your wishes. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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1. Yes your donor card means nothing, your family makes the decsion.
2. Pligganease, butthead, I don't hate big buisness. The show wants to make money, no doubt. But here we are talking about organ donation and debating its merits, etc. See, you're proven wrong again, now go back to your cousin and your trailer. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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I am and have told my family and boyfriend that I don't want to be on life support and if that is the case, carve me up! They can use me for whatever they want, just think about using your eyes to give a child a chance to see. There is no reason or excuse not to donate, its not like you are going to use this stuff anyway.
As for the TV program I watched an interview with the producers on the CBC today and their point was a good one, even if you disagree with the show, the fact that it has the world talking about organ donation means its a success. |
That's BS and you know it.
It's all about making money. The producers tell people that it's about "raising awareness for organ donation," but it isn't. It's about getting viewers and making money.
As an opponent of big business, I thought you might have seen through that weak charade to the truth.
I guess not. |
If you read the article you would know that the tv station in question is a public government funded channel no different from PBS in the U.S. I'm not sure how they would turn a profit from this. At best, they will gain viewship which would be viewed as a positve from the government but even the government has condemned the show....so please tell me what's in it for them?
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| The network, however, argues that its motives are not commercial in the slightest. In an interview with ABCNEWS.com, Drillich insisted that "BNN is a public TV channel, not a commercial channel. We are not selling ads, we will not be charging viewers to vote by text message, we have no intention of making money from this show." |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Geez, Pligganease not knowing what the hell he is talking about???????? WTF? I can't belive it.  |
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xtchr
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Oooohhhh! Burn! |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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So I was right?
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| As for the TV program I watched an interview with the producers on the CBC today and their point was a good one, even if you disagree with the show, the fact that it has the world talking about organ donation means its a success. |
Its tough being right all the time. I'll talk an apology kiss from that redneck Pligganease this week thank you very much. |
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Yo!Chingo
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul Korea
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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Well done!
It brings to light an important and serious issue. Good job, TV network! |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom
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The shortage of donation has a very simple solution.
Allow people to sell their organs.
People act out of self interest 100% of the time, and if you give them an monetary incentive (even in death, as the money could go to their family members) the # of people willing to not be buried with their organs (which is a f***ing sin!) will increase.
People should also be free to sell their kidneys, or whatever the hell they want. If it's not your body to sell then who owns it? Certiainly not you. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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The shortage of donation has a very simple solution.
Allow people to sell their organs.
People act out of self interest 100% of the time, and if you give them an monetary incentive (even in death, as the money could go to their family members) the # of people willing to not be buried with their organs (which is a f***ing sin!) will increase.
People should also be free to sell their kidneys, or whatever the hell they want. If it's not your body to sell then who owns it? Certiainly not you. |
I agree but in a country where you're not allowed to make many choices about your body (i.e. drugs, suicide, etc) why would you expect the government to allow you to do this. |
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