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Cheonmunka

Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Also, if someone says hi to me, I'll probably return it unless my mind is elsewhere. But it's still pretty ridiculous to think that all us honkies should be constantly acknowledging each other. |
I'm not picking on the above quote and poster. It was there to be copied and pasted and is 50% relevant to the following diatribe of crap.
Look, if someone looks like they need a 'hello' I give it. I don't weigh up stuff in my head.
But, it's pretty disappointing when you give a hello and you are ignored. That's just bs. Those people need a further labotomy. I don't care if you are in your own world. If you hear a hello, return it. I do, for all Koreans who say hello to me. I don't say hello to all Koreans. Some I do. But, when someone says hello to me I return it.
And we are of the similar ilk due to the color of our skin. Can't get past that one. Ignore that if you like but then it just comes back to manners about when someone greets you and returning that greeting. Unless you are really pissed off at the time, in which case you may need a hello in your own language to keep your spirits up. |
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Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: over here
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
| But, it's pretty disappointing when you give a hello and you are ignored. That's just bs. Those people need a further labotomy. I don't care if you are in your own world. If you hear a hello, return it. |
i said hello to a guy walking past who looked at my house as i was looking out the open window, i said hi and may even have waved and he totally ignored me.
i thought that was pretty rude. |
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faster

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| Also, if someone says hi to me, I'll probably return it unless my mind is elsewhere. But it's still pretty ridiculous to think that all us honkies should be constantly acknowledging each other. |
I'm not picking on the above quote and poster. It was there to be copied and pasted and is 50% relevant to the following diatribe of crap.
Look, if someone looks like they need a 'hello' I give it. I don't weigh up stuff in my head.
But, it's pretty disappointing when you give a hello and you are ignored. That's just bs. Those people need a further labotomy. I don't care if you are in your own world. If you hear a hello, return it. I do, for all Koreans who say hello to me. I don't say hello to all Koreans. Some I do. But, when someone says hello to me I return it.
And we are of the similar ilk due to the color of our skin. Can't get past that one. Ignore that if you like but then it just comes back to manners about when someone greets you and returning that greeting. Unless you are really pissed off at the time, in which case you may need a hello in your own language to keep your spirits up. |
I may be demarcating my own limitations, but I can't imagine a frame of mind in which a "hello" would somehow be needed, and I certainly don't want other people running around trying to figure out if I "need a 'hello'".
This isn't Mister Rogers' Neighborhood. |
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| You know, I've noticed that US military personnel are much more friendly than other expats. I wonder why that is? |
Because they're not uptight Canadians. |
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Unless you are really pissed off at the time, in which case you may need a hello in your own language to keep your spirits up. |
I particularly like resorting to French when greetied in English by a random Korean.. |
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Cheonmunka

Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I wrote that I say 'Hello' for all Koreans who say hello to me. That's not true. I acknowledge it but don't return it when it comes to those skiting little schoolpricks who just want to impress their mates. In fact, one time I gave some of them the finger.
Greet this.
But, really, it's just being kind to our own skins to acknowldge each other. But, then I don't live in Kangnam or Itaewon. I only see one whitey a day at the most. So, I kind of need a Hello now and then, too. |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: |
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I rarely smile at or say "Hello" to people I do not know, here, in Canada, Thailand, or anywhere. I consider those people to be either idiotic or conniving. Yes, I am cynical. If someone says hello to me, I will probably reply and at the same time wonder if A) I met him/her somewhere before and (was drunk so I) forgot it; B) what he/she wants from me; and/or C) what is this guy's/girl's malfunction.
Seriously OP, do you smile and say Hi to people you do not know back at home? If you do, then fine. If not, why would you do it or epect it to be done here. I hate it when Koreans react to us differently based on our appearance (i.e. skin colour), and I know many other posters here doa s well, but to expect that we should somehow acknowledge other foreigners and treat them differently than the average Kim on the street is the same form of racism. |
Exacttllyy. I live in a small town in America..and I'm Asian. I don't smile or say hello to every asian I see. I may glance at them and see if I know them or not..but that's about it. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Was at the batting cage with my friend today. I'm watching him hit some balls when I hear a Korean girl speaking broken English behind me and I turn around and see a fat non-Korean guy in a Yankee's hat trying to get change from the grumpy ajeossi. I'm less than a metre away from him and his slightly less fat girlfriend so I say,
"How're you going?"
He ignores me.
I think nothing much of it and turn back to watching my friend.
A few seconds later I turn around again and the fat guy makes eye contact with me, so I say,
"Where're you from?"
He says,
"Down the road."
He asks me where I'm from, I tell him. I ask him again,
"Where are you from?"
He says again,
"Down the road."
Me,
"Where down the road? _-dong? _-dong? _-dong?"
He says,
"That's private! Down the road."
Laughs to himself as if it was the funniest thing he ever said and walks over and gets into one of the cages.
Easily the rudest guy I've met here, Koreans included.
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RobertX
Joined: 07 May 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| The smaller the town the more friendly the foreigner |
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wo buxihuan hanguoren

Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Location: Suyuskis
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| Compared to the rest of Asia (that I've been to), Korea has the most unfriendly locals and foreigners, hands down. Miserable place to be in sometimes, innit? |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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If the illegal teachers are afraid to talk to others, then, okay, I can deal with that. But so many others are just plain jerks.  |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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As some foreign guy walks past me and smiles, nods, and says "Hello" for no other reason than because I am a non-Korean I wonder about how often he gets upset about Koreans acting differently towards him, making the distinction that he is a foreigner and therefore should be treated differently, and then I wonder why he is doing the same thing to me.
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I agree with this.
Excellent post. If one does not like Koreans saying hello to him because he is a foreigner why does he like foreigners saying hello to him because he is a foreigner? |
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Location: Not far from the deep end.
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Kyrei wrote: |
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As some foreign guy walks past me and smiles, nods, and says "Hello" for no other reason than because I am a non-Korean I wonder about how often he gets upset about Koreans acting differently towards him, making the distinction that he is a foreigner and therefore should be treated differently, and then I wonder why he is doing the same thing to me.
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I agree with this.
Excellent post. If one does not like Koreans saying hello to him because he is a foreigner why does he like foreigners saying hello to him because he is a foreigner? |
Okay. Then from now on, every time I see a foreigner I will say "anyeong hashimnikka?" instead of "hello." If he or she is indeed unfriendly, I can at least get a rewarding look of puzzled acknowledgment instead of just being flat-out ignored.  |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| I just think that being "western" is too big a group to assume a connection in a big city. In a small city maybe. And remember, a certain percentage of expats here are misanthropes who came here to "disappear" and dont want contact with westerners as it reminds them that they're running away from something, probably themselves. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| And remember, a certain percentage of expats here are misanthropes who came here to "disappear" and dont want contact with westerners as it reminds them that they're running away from something, probably themselves. |
Lord, Satori, how melodramatic can you get. Just the whole concept of someone running away from themselves seems so totally awkward. There may be a degree of that misanthropy/self-aversion combo mindset in a portion of expats. And even if they have that affliction to a considerable degree I wouldn't say they are 'running away from themselves'. Because I have difficulty, personally, fathoming just what the hell that means. |
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