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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: The Mobile Infantry Made Me What I Am Today! |
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Read this, and had a flash from the movie Starship Troopers. The recruiting officer spoke the words in the title of this thread, and the camera pulls back to show he has several prosthetic limbs.
U.S. soldiers with missing limbs allowed to return to active duty
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Someone who loses a limb is still a very valuable asset," said Lt. Col. Kevin Arata, a spokesman for the Army's Human Resources Command at the Pentagon.
Also, just as advances in battlefield medicine have boosted survival rates among the wounded, better prosthetics and treatment regimens have improved amputees' ability to regain mobility.
So far, the Army has treated nearly 600 service members who have come back from Iraq or Afghanistan without an arm, leg, hand or foot. Thirty-one have gone back to active duty, and no one who asked to remain in the service has been discharged, Arata said.
Most of those who return to active duty are assigned to instructor or desk jobs away from combat. Only a few � the Army doesn't keep track of exactly how many � have returned to the war zone, and only at their insistence, Arata said.
To go back into the war zone, they have to prove they can do the job without putting themselves or others at risk. |
I'm of two minds, but mostly it's all thumbs up. These are people with experience, and they still want to serve their country, and it looks like the military is being more hospitable to them than civilian society likely would. Even if I don't agree with the goals - and I definitely DON'T - people who run toward danger when the rest of us run away deserve nothing but love ...
It's also a sign, though, of how badly the govt needs people to do the faeces that Bush and his cronies have put on their plate. I'm thinking the American military just can't afford the luxury of sending people home after them being blown up only once. Gotta send 'em back, if they want, see if the second IED will do what the first one didn't ...
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cosmo
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: The Mobile Infantry Made Me What I Am Today! |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
It's also a sign, though, of how badly the govt needs people to do the faeces that Bush and his cronies have put on their plate. They just can't afford the luxury of sending people home after them been blown up only once. Gotta send 'em back, if they want, see if the second IED will do what the first one didn't ... |
Your post expresses some good sentiments until the sicko ending part. 
Maybe its none of my business what you post, but that comes across so poorly, you may want to consider editing it out.
This is intended as constructive criticism rather than insult.
Actually this phenomenon is not new or unique.
The film "Men Of Honor" tells the story of a Navy Diver who goes on to further his career after losing his leg to a shipboard accident.
A new twist to the classic "Peg Leg Pirate"
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: The Mobile Infantry Made Me What I Am Today! |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
I'm of two minds, but mostly it's all thumbs up. |
All thumbs up? *chuckles* Didn't want to say both thumbs up? 
Bobster, I think your fears would be layed to rest if you had ever played Bionic Commando. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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My middle son (I'm old) just qualified to join the Canadian Army. He has an 18" Titanium rod attached to his spine from scoliosis. He just finished basic and is doing his next step in Armor.
He wants to go to Afghanistan. . . .
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: The Mobile Infantry Made Me What I Am Today! |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| The Bobster wrote: |
I'm of two minds, but mostly it's all thumbs up. |
All thumbs up? *chuckles* Didn't want to say both thumbs up?
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Gee, if I have more than one mind, aren't I allowed to have more than two thumbs?
contrarian
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My middle son (I'm old) just qualified to join the Canadian Army. He has an 18" Titanium rod attached to his spine from scoliosis. He just finished basic and is doing his next step in Armor.
He wants to go to Afghanistan. . . . |
I think your son is a good man, I mean it. I heard there were some terrorists in Afghanistan, and I heard the guys who crashed the planes into the World Trade Center in New York were being protected by some scum in Afghanistan. Heard those same scum made it against the law to teach little girls to read. I can't think of anything to like about any of that.
Sounds like a good guy, your son. He's gonna make the world a better place.
I meant everything I said just now, in case you are wondering. Sometimes, I'm ironic, but this time I'm not. Actually, your son sounds like a better man than me. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks, I'm proud of the kid. He's always wanted to be a soldier. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: The Mobile Infantry Made Me What I Am Today! |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
| . They just can't afford the luxury of sending people home after them been blown up only once. Gotta send 'em back, if they want, see if the second IED will do what the first one didn't ... |
The soldiers that returned WANTED to be returned, they could have been discharged or gotten a desk job. It was their choice...stop making it sound like "Bush and his cronies" are forcing them to return.
Gotta love how you take an article and completely misinterpret what it is saying. |
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cosmo
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: The Mobile Infantry Made Me What I Am Today! |
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Gotta love how you take an article and completely misinterpret what it is saying. |
I think it is obvious what the article is saying. The sicko commentary regarding brave people who were wounded is uncalled for.
If someone wants to protest the war, that is one thing, but the way he is doing it is nothing less than the mentality and style of Fred Phelps. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: The Mobile Infantry Made Me What I Am Today! |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| The Bobster wrote: |
| . They just can't afford the luxury of sending people home after them been blown up only once. Gotta send 'em back, if they want, see if the second IED will do what the first one didn't ... |
The soldiers that returned WANTED to be returned, they could have been discharged or gotten a desk job. It was their choice...stop making it sound like "Bush and his cronies" are forcing them to return.
Gotta love how you take an article and completely misinterpret what it is saying. |
I worked so hard to say exactly what I meant. Nothing but respect for people who put on a uniform and offer to die so that I don't have to. What I said before about people who run toward danger while the rest of us run away.
The only point is, in the past, a missing limb meant you were no longer ALLOWED to serve your country. That is different now. As I've said, I'm of two minds. On the one hand, it's good that people who want to serve are allowed to. On the other hand, I think it shows that the military today needs so many bodies at work that they will take folk back who once were not considered "able." It's a little disturbing, I thought it was worth a comment.
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cosmo
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: Re: The Mobile Infantry Made Me What I Am Today! |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
| They just can't afford the luxury of sending people home after them been blown up only once. Gotta send 'em back, if they want, see if the second IED will do what the first one didn't ... |
There are two THEYS. It comes across as if the first and second THEY are referring to the same subject.
As I said, it comes across poorly, as if you are trying to make a cruel joke about those who are wounded in action.
It is hard to analyze what your intention is aside from what the words look like.
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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contrarian : Thanks for talking about your son like you did before. Very easy to fall into the trap of discussing things in the abstract, and we're all better off to keep a human face in our mind while talking about this kind of stuff ...
From what you say, I'm sure your son is an excellent soldier, and I'm grateful he is willing to do something I have never done and will never do. My fondest wish, sincerely, is that he comes back to you whole, and discovers that he is equally excellent at making babies and keeping a good woman warm in his arms every night.
I hope you don't think I hate America because I say these things.
Don't let my avatar fool you. No one loves peace more than a soldier. Every one of them I've ever met, their greatest desire is to be unnecessary |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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I spent 5 years in the Canadian Army. I have never been in a war, but I did volunteer for the Israeli army in 1967. I went aover there two days after the war was over and did some work with the aftermath of the war.
I saw, cleaned up, fixed up and smelled some things I never want to repeat. Opening the hatch of an Egyptian tank with four bodies that had been "cooking" in the sun for a spell was one such event.
That said winning outright as in WWII is attractive so that it is not necessay to keep doing it over again.
By the dates you can see I'm really old. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: |
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cosmo, thanks for the heads up on the vague pronoun reference. The OP has been edited as per your suggestion. English is such a slippery language ... that's why we make the big bucks, eh?
By the way, who is Fred Phelps? Excuse me while I google ... |
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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Dana Bowman, a member of the U.S. Army Parachute team, The Golden Knights, lost both his legs in a high speed passing manuver, which killed the other man. He became the 1st double amputee to re-enlist in the Army back in 1994.
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Bowman, who lives in Weatherford, was injured Feb. 6, 1994, as he practiced with fellow Golden Knights parachutist Jose Aguillon over Yuma, Ariz. The two collided at a combined speed of about 300 miles per hour while rehearsing a maneuver in free fall. An automatic device opened Bowman's parachute when they collided. Aguillon was killed.
Bowman's left leg was amputated below the knee, his right leg above the knee. Since the accident, he has jumped with the Golden Knights, has earned a bachelor's degree in aeronautics from the University of North Dakota, and has become a certified helicopter instructor. He also skis, on snow and water, and scuba dives. |
But lard @sses are still not allowed to join the military. Seems to me that a wide body, while maybe not suited for some jobs, could excel in support positions as well as non-deployed troops. |
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