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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Alias wrote: |
| Fact - the majority of Americans want US troops withdrawn from Iraq. Neo-Cons are now in the minority on that issue. |
Most Americans support the war on terror
Iraq is a battle on the war on "terror".
Get rid the Bathists, the Khomenists and the Al Qaedists then no more terror. |
Michael Tsarion - Inquisitions Old and New 
May 17, 2007
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/05may/RICR-070517.html
Tune into this excellent two hour (two part) program with our regular monthly guest Michael Tsarion, on the theme of Inquisitions Old and New.
Topics Discussed: The Inquisition, Christianity, The Dark Side of Christian History, Bible and History, Hierarchy and Holarchy, Cults, Man Made Religions, The Creations of Religion, The New Outsider (Religion): Islam, The Iraq War, Torture and Sadism, Slave and Master, Heretics, the Rebel, Suppresion of Knowledge, Grabbing of Assets, Kersey Graves, Witch Hunt, Mind Control and reprogramming, The Loss of Self and much more |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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what made the inquistions bad is that they were done against innocent people.
However Baathists , Khomenist and Al Qaedists are always planning to conquer to mideast and wipe out / subjucate other religions and other ethnic groups.
Stoping them isn't evil. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
what made the inquistions bad is that they were done against innocent people.
However Baathists , Khomenist and Al Qaedists are always planning to conquer to mideast and wipe out / subjucate other religions and other ethnic groups.
Stoping them isn't evil. |
Oddly, i appears to almost agree with conclusion.
MAJOR false premise however  |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Most Americans support the war on terror. The reason for the Iraq war is cause the Bathists , the Khomeni followers and the Al Qaedists wouldn't give up their war.
They don't have a right to their war. |
How will we know when they have given up their war? I'm not too sure sure about the state of the Bathists these days, but Saddam was a major Bathist and he's dead now. How is the party bearing up these days? The Khomeni followers constitute an entire nation, give or take a few dissenters, and it doesn't look to me like they are currently at war. And as for the Al Qaedists, well they are just too damn hard to find.
I'm genuinely interested as to how we will know when "they" have given up "their" war. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Most Americans support the war on terror. The reason for the Iraq war is cause the Bathists , the Khomeni followers and the Al Qaedists wouldn't give up their war.
They don't have a right to their war. |
How will we know when they have given up their war? I'm not too sure sure about the state of the Bathists these days, but Saddam was a major Bathist and he's dead now. How is the party bearing up these days? The Khomeni followers constitute an entire nation, give or take a few dissenters, and it doesn't look to me like they are currently at war. And as for the Al Qaedists, well they are just too damn hard to find.
I'm genuinely interested as to how we will know when "they" have given up "their" war. |
The Khomeni followers are not an entire nation.
You will know if Iran quits When you see no more IED's in Iraq from Iran. When Iran stops inciting violence and teaching hate. When they drop the death sentence on Rushidie.When they cut off the arms to Hizzbollah.
The US was aware when Ghaddafy gave up his war.
As for Al Qaedists they are hard to find- but only for the US and not for mid- east regimes who have excellent intelligence services. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| when george bush has to leave next year, there really couldn't be anyone worse to take his place. |
Sorry for the bad news, but he leaves the place he sometimes sleeps somewhere around January 20, 2009. The election is next year, though, that much is true ... and I agree, though, ANYone would be better.
I just keep thinking of all the further damage he could do in that time.
One word: impeachment. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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........I'm not too sure sure about the state of the Bathists these days, but Saddam was a major Bathist and he's dead now. How is the party bearing up these days? ............ |
I wish to address your question.
Syria
In March 8, 1963, the military committee of the Baath party carried out a coup d��tat, and the Baath Party took control of the government. The Revolutionary Command Counsel (RCC) chaired by Luai al-Atassi was formed in the same year, and Atassi as the chairman of the RCC headed the state, and asked Salah al-Din al-Bitar to appoint the cabinet. The RCC dissolved Parliament also in the same year. In July 1963, Amin Hafez, a member of the Baath party replaced Atassi in Chairing the RCC. A provisional constitution was promulgated in 1964, which declared the Baath party as the ruling party, and allowed the RCC to represent the legislative branch, and to elect a presidential counsel that appoints the cabinet, and both represent the executive branch. Amin Hafez, chairman of the RCC, became the chairman of the presidential counsel, and In January, he introduced another socialist program, nationalizing all private schools and universities, western churches and missionaries which backed to the 19th century, plus more than one hundred private companies, to extend state�s ownership to electricity generation, oil companies and distribution, ginning of cotton, trade, and religious institutions. On February 23, 1966, a military coup lead by Hafez al-Assad and Salah Jadid, both members of the Baath party, forced Amin Hafez to resign. Assad and Jadid appointed Nureddin al-Atassi as president, and replaced the provisional constitution with the 1966 provisional constitution; however, another provisional constitution was approved in 1969.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria#Baath_takeover
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba'ath_Party
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
| tiger fancini wrote: |
........I'm not too sure sure about the state of the Bathists these days, but Saddam was a major Bathist and he's dead now. How is the party bearing up these days? ............ |
I wish to address your question.
Syria
In March 8, 1963, the military committee of the Baath party carried out a coup d��tat, and the Baath Party took control of the government. The Revolutionary Command Counsel (RCC) chaired by Luai al-Atassi was formed in the same year, and Atassi as the chairman of the RCC headed the state, and asked Salah al-Din al-Bitar to appoint the cabinet. The RCC dissolved Parliament also in the same year. In July 1963, Amin Hafez, a member of the Baath party replaced Atassi in Chairing the RCC. A provisional constitution was promulgated in 1964, which declared the Baath party as the ruling party, and allowed the RCC to represent the legislative branch, and to elect a presidential counsel that appoints the cabinet, and both represent the executive branch. Amin Hafez, chairman of the RCC, became the chairman of the presidential counsel, and In January, he introduced another socialist program, nationalizing all private schools and universities, western churches and missionaries which backed to the 19th century, plus more than one hundred private companies, to extend state�s ownership to electricity generation, oil companies and distribution, ginning of cotton, trade, and religious institutions. On February 23, 1966, a military coup lead by Hafez al-Assad and Salah Jadid, both members of the Baath party, forced Amin Hafez to resign. Assad and Jadid appointed Nureddin al-Atassi as president, and replaced the provisional constitution with the 1966 provisional constitution; however, another provisional constitution was approved in 1969.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria#Baath_takeover
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba'ath_Party
cbc |
Very informative - thanks for that. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| Very informative - thanks for that. |
Yes, thanks for saying nothing relevant, infomative or interesting. Excuse me for being real. |
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Alias wrote: |
| Fact - the majority of Americans want US troops withdrawn from Iraq. Neo-Cons are now in the minority on that issue. |
Most Americans support the war on terror.
Iraq is a battle on the war on terror.
Get rid the Bathists, the Khomenists and the Al Qaedists then no more terror. |
Most Americans support the abstract "war on terror".
Most Americans want US troops withdrawn for the Iraq War. That is a fact. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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The war on terror is forcing Bathists, Khomeni followers and Al Qaedists to give up their war.
Most Americans will go along with bases in Iraq -to project power and fight "Holy war international " if the US is not engaged in police actions within Iraq. |
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| .......am I talking to a child? Seriously it is not complicated. |
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insam
Joined: 17 May 2007
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insam
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| nice alizee |
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insam
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