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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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 Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: UK one-ups everyone in education idiocy once again |
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20070601/tuk-uk-britain-schools-fa6b408.html
I wonder how many less great schoolers the UK will produce in the 21st century than it did in the previous ones. I'm thinking it's going to be an awful lot, with many of the few it does finishing their educations or starting their careers at American universities. [/quote] |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Pupils in the "comfort zone" need a different approach to help them make progress, the government said.
It offered teachers a range of strategies including selecting which child to question in class or giving a pupil 30 seconds "thinking time" before expecting an answer. Pupils could also be encouraged to discuss questions in pairs.
Teachers could try coaching small groups, and providing children with the chance to develop their assertiveness, including the use of drama sessions.
"It confirms effective practice and strategies which many teachers use on a daily basis to engage and include pupils," said NASUWT General Secretary Chris Keates.
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i see nothing wrong with this. in fact i agree with the proposal.
/is a brit though |
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Ozabout7or8
Joined: 04 May 2007
Location: NZ
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:38 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Spyro that there is nothing wrong with the proposal. While it might seem from the first few lines that they are proposing something that would lessen competition and 'level the playing field', thereby hurting the more talented students, it rather simply gives some clear guidelines on how to build a more inclusive classroom using well-researched strategies.
In my MA we are taught strategies such as getting students talking to eachother instead of answering the teacher directly first, and also sharing around answers among students is standard practice.
I cannot see why you posted it anyway  |
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VirginIslander
Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| The UK has enough East Indian Students to keep them going. |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| and they have lived there for many generations, adding to the diversity of the UK. what's your point? |
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Ozabout7or8
Joined: 04 May 2007
Location: NZ
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:11 am Post subject: |
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I think Virgin was referring to Bumsuk's suggestion that the UK will only be left with idiots, because the good students will head to the US and the remaining ones will be under-schooled.
Virgin countered that there are plenty of East Indian immigrants to keep the UK economy going.
Me? I think there is no issue and the economic one is beyond the realms of this thread anyway... |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:13 am Post subject: |
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ah i see
sorry virgin |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| spyro25 wrote: |
| and they have lived there for many generations, adding to the diversity of the UK. what's your point? |
Many? Like back to the 1600's or something? Try the 1960's. |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| spyro25 wrote: |
| and they have lived there for many generations, adding to the diversity of the UK. what's your point? |
Many? Like back to the 1600's or something? Try the 1960's. |
People from all parts of the former British Empire, especially the Indian sub-continent, have been in Britain since the 19th century. Black people have been in Britain since Roman times. The 1950s and 60s saw the first waves of mass immigration, but that doesn't mean there haven't been non-indigenous British people living there for centuries. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| jinks wrote: |
| but that doesn't mean there haven't been non-indigenous British people living there for centuries. |
But certainly not many. An almost negligible number. |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| jinks wrote: |
| but that doesn't mean there haven't been non-indigenous British people living there for centuries. |
But certainly not many. An almost negligible number. |
Not if you consider Anglo-Saxons, Jutes, Norse, and Franks to be non-indigenous. |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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little slow on news today guys? long lunch break? |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| jinks wrote: |
| but that doesn't mean there haven't been non-indigenous British people living there for centuries. |
But certainly not many. An almost negligible number. |
Not if you consider Anglo-Saxons, Jutes, Norse, and Franks to be non-indigenous. |
I was refering to South Asians and blacks who made up the baulk of twentieth century immigration in the UK. There has never been as much demographic change in such a short space of time in the history of the UK. |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| jinks wrote: |
| but that doesn't mean there haven't been non-indigenous British people living there for centuries. |
But certainly not many. An almost negligible number. |
Not if you consider Anglo-Saxons, Jutes, Norse, and Franks to be non-indigenous. |
I was refering to South Asians and blacks who made up the baulk of twentieth century immigration in the UK. There has never been as much demographic change in such a short space of time in the history of the UK. |
Highland clearances?
Industrial revolution?
Norse settlements of the north east?
Norman invasion?
Edward's conquest and castle building in the Welsh marches? |
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