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Freaka
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: Calling all gyopos who teach private lessons |
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My question is for the gyopos who provide private tutoring. I was wondering if you'd care to share your experiences with a newbie gyopo such as myself, so that I know what to expect when I arrive in Seoul next month.
How is it teaching English to Koreans as a foreign born Korean? Do you feel discriminated against? Do you feel that being a gyopo gives you an advantage or disadvantage in finding work? Do you speak both English and Korean fluently?
Thanks! |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Gyopo is at a disadvantage when looking for kids to privately tutor. Mainly because the parents of the children want a stereotypical native teacher (a white guy). Knowing how to speak Korean is even worse. Koreans think that knowing Korean somehow "taints" native English tongue.
On the other hand, a gyopo has the F-4 visa that doesn't have restrictions against tutoring privately.
**** Edited to change "white boy" to "white guy". I hoping "white guy" isn't racist also.****
Last edited by pkang0202 on Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:20 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
Gyopo is at a disadvantage when looking for kids to privately tutor. Mainly because the parents of the children want a stereotypical native teacher (a white boy). Knowing how to speak Korean is even worse. Koreans think that knowing Korean somehow "taints" native English tongue.
On the other hand, a gyopo has the F-4 visa that doesn't have restrictions against tutoring privately. |
This "White Boy" has an F-2-1 Visa, doesn't restrict me either.
I whish people would refrain from using slur.
It's not only the language that they want to acquire, they also want to learn how a "White Boy" behaves, they want to interactively learn about the culture and let the children get used to different ways of thinking. I think. instinctively Korean parents realise that they should open the minds of their children.
I have parents tell me i should instruct their children in European Etiquette, whatever that means.
So please, its a bit more then just being a "White Boy". |
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xCustomx
Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
Gyopo is at a disadvantage when looking for kids to privately tutor. Mainly because the parents of the children want a stereotypical native teacher (a white boy). Knowing how to speak Korean is even worse. Koreans think that knowing Korean somehow "taints" native English tongue.
On the other hand, a gyopo has the F-4 visa that doesn't have restrictions against tutoring privately. |
You will find ads once in a while where the student only wants to hire a gyopo. I think this is mainly for lower level students who may find it easier at times to get a translation in Korean. With some of the first or second grade elementary school students I used to teach it was a lot easier to explain things in Korean and move along, rather than give them example after example while they just showed a blank face. |
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Seriously, "white boy" is offensive. Mods shouldn't allow this stuff. Same as if I called Koreans "yellow boys" or "little gochu boys". |
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livinginkunsan
Joined: 02 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| It is because the pronunciation of all gyopos that I have met SUCKS |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| hubba bubba wrote: |
| Seriously, "white boy" is offensive. Mods shouldn't allow this stuff. Same as if I called Koreans "yellow boys" or "little gochu boys". |
I don't find 'white boy' offensive at all, and let's face it - that's exactly how a lot of Korean parents view us. And it's true that what a lot of parents want is a bit of cross-cultural interaction along with the sophistication that comes with little Jin-suk spending time in the same room as a white boy. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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This white boy has an F5. With two children, a wife and a family of caring relatives, I've got just as much right, if not more, to be here as you
Sadly, if you saw me on the street you would think, '또, 외국인 보기싫어..'
Notice that the five is one more than 4 as it appears in F4.
BTW: I know several 교포 'teachers' of TOEIC and SAT earning double my income. Don't be so jealous.
Some foreigners have higher qualifications, too, than many ex-Koreans. Don't judge everyone. |
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AwesomeA
Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Yeosu
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| hubba bubba wrote: |
| Seriously, "white boy" is offensive. Mods shouldn't allow this stuff. Same as if I called Koreans "yellow boys" or "little gochu boys". |
I don't find 'white boy' offensive at all, and let's face it - that's exactly how a lot of Korean parents view us. And it's true that what a lot of parents want is a bit of cross-cultural interaction along with the sophistication that comes with little Jin-suk spending time in the same room as a white boy. |
I find whiteboy offensive. I look caucasian, but I am mixed race. Growing up in a hispanic neighborhood, people used "white boy" as a racial slur. If caucasians say "insert color" boy about another, they are called racists. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't find 'white boy' offensive at all |
I don't really find it offensive, because it's a silly thing from a silly mind. But not having called any Korean person by a slur I would find it offensive if it were directed at me. |
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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"White boy" is a racial slur. Plain and simple. If you're not offended by it, cool.
I don't have a problem with the sentence, "Koreans want a white man to teach their kids." "White boy" is used to be condescending.
"Kobe Bryant, that black boy can really shoot hoops." "Some of the yellow boys at my school at OK, but some are racist." Not really appropriate, is it? |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| livinginkunsan wrote: |
| It is because the pronunciation of all gyopos that I have met SUCKS |
You apparently haven't me the same ones I have. |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Not only do parents want a typical, atypical "white boy", some want a good-looking "white boy". My friend was being interviewed for a private teaching gig, and the mom started raising her voice. Apparently, she was angry because my friend was ugly and creepy-looking. He didn't get the job. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
Gyopo is at a disadvantage when looking for kids to privately tutor. Mainly because the parents of the children want a stereotypical native teacher (a white boy). Knowing how to speak Korean is even worse. Koreans think that knowing Korean somehow "taints" native English tongue.
On the other hand, a gyopo has the F-4 visa that doesn't have restrictions against tutoring privately. |
What is wrong with you?
I've met many gyopos and have friends that are gyopos. I've met many gyopos who abuse the system so much because they can easily blend in when they want to. I've met gyopos with a 4 year degree and no teaching qualification who make double my salary teaching toeic and SAT prep and I've met gyopos with only a high school education making as much as me through hagwon shifts.
Don't play some "feel sorry for the poor gyopo" game and don't ever call someone a "white-boy." |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| hubba bubba wrote: |
"White boy" is a racial slur. Plain and simple. If you're not offended by it, cool.
I don't have a problem with the sentence, "Koreans want a white man to teach their kids." "White boy" is used to be condescending.
"Kobe Bryant, that black boy can really shoot hoops." "Some of the yellow boys at my school at OK, but some are racist." Not really appropriate, is it? |
While some may find it offensive, a better idea is to tolerate it and be the bigger, rational man about it. It'd be nice if every P.C. person and person of color (and we are all of color) would not get huffy-puffy nor violent about simple words. Censorship is never the answer. |
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