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[koon_taung_daeng]

This is honestly the most disturbing thing i have ever seen in my life, i threw up so be careful where you open this up,


http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t37170.html




damn chinese! they really do eat ANYTHING

[doggyji]

Those pictures are so disturbing but I read it's all fake and it was an artist's performance. What does this have to do with this Korea forum?

[oneofthesarahs]

I've read interesting articles that the whole "Chinese people eat babies" comes from the ancient legend called "Blood Libel," which is the accusation that one culture routinely participates in human sacrifice, especially children, and eating them. The Greeks accused the Jews of it, the Romans accused the Christians, Christians accused the Jews again, etc etc etc ad nauseum.

It's an urban legend. And I've heard those pics are fake.

But here's something for real and totally gross. Yummy placenta recipes!
http://www.twilightheadquarters.com/placenta.html

[bnrockin]

I had a friend from Taiwan actually confirm this. She said that it is very very rare, but there are a select few who can afford and choose to eat them. I thought it was fake too until she confirmed it.

[IncognitoHFX]

I'd rather eat a fetus than a dog, any day of the week.

[Nicco61]

DUDE!!! Where are your priorties???

[swetepete]

[Guri Guy]

Well, it not an abortion but I have lost a ton of respect for this weirdo:


Cruise plans on eating baby's afterbirth

azcentral.com
Apr. 18, 2006 09:43 AM

And so the TomKat baby saga keeps on getting more creepy by the day ... Cruise has recently revealed plans to feast on his baby's placenta and umbilical cord.

The 'Mission Impossible 3' star doesn't seem to mind possibly alienating himself from his scores of fans with this unusual practice.

Cruise told GQ magazine: "I'm going to eat the placenta. I thought that would be good. Very nutritious. I'm going to eat the cord and the placenta right there."
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The devout Scientologist and his fiance Katie Holmes are also planning on following Scientology's customary silent birth when the baby is delivered. It is believed that this cuts down on the trauma the child experiences when it's born.

"We've been studying what a woman goes through, what happens to a woman's body," Cruise continued in the GQ article.

Cruise, 43, and Holmes, 27, are expecting their baby any day now.

http://www.azcentral.com/ent/celeb/articles/0418cruise.html

[Guri Guy]

Here is a good article on the baby eating urban myth:

Do They Eat Babies in China?
From the Mailbag

More of this Feature
� Part 2: Doll Parts

Related Stories
� Human Meat for Sale!
� Art Imitates Tabloids

From Other Guides
� Cannibalizing Fetuses

Elsewhere on the Web
� The Blood Libel Myth
� Chinese Eating Fetuses: Christian Pornography



Dear Guide:

I received an email last week which was quite disturbing and, to say the least, disgusting. It is about dead babies that can be bought from hospitals in Taiwan for $70 to meet the high demand for grilled and barbequed babies!

I am sure this must be a hoax, although the message comes with an attached slide show, showing how the baby is prepared, cooked and eaten.

Could you please investigate?


Dear Reader:

I think we can safely say that the Chinese as a people do not routinely eat babies or fetuses; nor do Jews, Christians, witches, aborigines or any other groups accused of doing so over the centuries. There's simply no proof of it. There has never been. What the historical record shows is that the allegation has surfaced time and time again as an ethnic and religious slur.

The claim that baby or fetus eating is an accepted practice in China (or Thailand, or Japan, or Korea, or Israel, as other variants of this same rumor claim) is more or less a modernized version of an ancient legend known as "Blood Libel." It has typically taken the form of one culture accusing another (or a subculture) of ritually sacrificing infants and in some cases eating them. The Greeks accused the Jews of it, the Romans accused the Christians, Christians accused the Jews again, and so on throughout history.

Folklorists say the driving forces behind such legends are ignorance, xenophobia (fear of other peoples and creeds) and/or one culture projecting upon another its misgivings about unsettling moral trends at home. One might speculate in the present case, for example, that the spread of horror stories in the West about the crass use of fetuses as food in Asia is fueled by qualms about the practice of abortion and the so-called "cannibalization" of fetal tissue for scientific research in our own countries. There are few more emotionally charged issues in modern life.

In any case, it's hard to tell (and under dispute) whether the horrific photographs circulating via email since December 2000 are real or fake. We do know because we found documentation on them at a site called Chinese-Art.com that they were created by a conceptual artist named Zhu Yu, who exhibited them at an underground art show after they were rejected as too controversial by curators of the Shanghai 2000 Bienniale. In the piece, which he called "Eating People," a serious of photographs indeed appears to show Zhu cooking and eating a human baby or fetus. For those who haven't seen them and aren't too squeamish to take a peek, here are two examples from this postmodern masterpiece collected from forwarded emails:

* Zhu Yu 'Eating People' #1
* Zhu Yu 'Eating People' #2

The artist himself, whose past accomplishments include an opus entitled "Canned Human Brains," has claimed in interviews that he used real aborted fetuses stolen from a medical school to create "Eating People" and that he actually cooked and ate them "for art's sake."

Should we take him at his word?

Do They Eat Babies in China?
Part 2: Doll Parts?

More of this Feature
� Part 1: Blood Libel

Related Stories
� Human Meat for Sale!
� Art Imitates Tabloids

From Other Guides
� Cannibalizing Fetuses

Elsewhere on the Web
� The Blood Libel Myth
� Chinese Eating Fetuses: Christian Pornography


It's true, to the point of being a cliche, as a matter of fact, that avant-garde artists will do anything to shock the public, so we have to acknowledge the possibility that Zhu Yu is telling the truth � that he actually did cook and eat human fetuses. On the other hand, works of "performance art" are often strictly that � performances � and it has been argued that Zhu could have easily constructed his "fetuses" out of doll parts and animal carcasses, pretended to consume them in front of the cameras and made tongue-in-cheek statements to the press to convince everyone the exhibition was real.

That's a theory I'm inclined to agree with, because, frankly, if Zhu were telling the truth he'd probably be serving jail time. There's no reason to suppose China is any more tolerant of cannibalism than the rest of the world, and indeed the fact that Zhu's work was refused for an official exhibition bears that out. Plus, by his own admission, the fetuses Zhu allegedly cooked and ate were obtained illegally.

In early 2001, a Malaysian tabloid published some of the photos along with a story alleging that one Taiwanese restaurant's signature dish contains meat from human infants. Taiwan government officials demanded an immediate retraction, another indication that baby eating is not particularly well-accepted by the Chinese.

Shortly afterward, the same pictures showed up on a prominent Website (www.rotten.com), prompting an announcement in the British press of an investigation into their origins by Scotland Yard and the FBI. However, the owner of said Website maintains he has never been contacted by authorities from any country. When last we looked, the photos were still on display.


Take the Poll: "Do you believe this artist when he claims he actually cooked and ate human fetuses?"


Sources and further reading:

* "Baby Eating Photos Are Part of Chinese Artist's Performance." Taipei Times, 23 March 2001.
* "The Blood Libel Myth." Religioustolerance.org
* "Chinese Avant-Garde Art Is a 'Social Evil'." The Art Newspaper, 2000
* "Dead Baby Muncher Pic Spawns Police Inquiry." The Register, 22 Feb 2001
* Ellis, Bill. Aliens, Ghosts, and Cults: Legends We Live. Jackson: University Press of Mississippi, 2001; 46-57.
* "Fetus Feast." Urban Legends Reference Pages, 19 June 2001.
* "Officials Tone Down Chinese Art Exhibit." Associated Press, 8 Jan 2001.
* "Online Baby Muncher Is an Artist." The Register, 23 Feb 2001
* "The Violent Trend in Chinese Contemporary Art." Chinese-art.com, 2001.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa080601b.htm

[Jeweltone]

No one has ever asked me to eat a baby, but I was offered a "placenta" injection treatment by my Korean doctor. I squeamishly asked him what this meant, and he said it was from baby placenta and was supposed to boost the immune system. He wondered why this freaked out Western women....

There probably is some truth to the placenta theory.

[samd]

[IncognitoHFX]

[dogshed]

From: http://www.fda.gov/fdac/reprints/puffery.html

Human placenta is the nourishing lining of the womb (uterus), which is expelled after birth. When placental materials were first used as cosmetic ingredients in the 1940s, manufacturers promoted the products as providing beneficial hormonal effects such as stimulating tissue growth and removing wrinkles. (Although newborn infants emerge from the womb with wrinkled skin!) The hormone content and the tissue-growth and wrinkle-removing claims classified the placenta-containing products as drugs, and FDA declared them to be ineffective and therefore misbranded.

FDA's challenge caused placenta suppliers to change marketing strategies by claiming that hormones in their placenta ingredients had been extracted and were no longer in the product. They then offered placental raw materials without medical claims--only as a source of protein.

Can you get a disease from placental cosmetic ingredients? Bailey says no. Placenta used in cosmetics is washed and processed many times to destroy any harmful bacteria or viruses. Besides that, says Bailey, the cosmetic matrix (components that bind the ingredients in products) is made from a wide variety of substances, such as alcohol and preservatives, that would present a hostile environment to any viruses or bacteria the placenta might have carried.

[tzechuk]

[Jeweltone]

Thank you. I trust my doctor (who is American trained), and I figured it was legit. Just the same, I don't think it is something I am going to try...