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BSchill



Joined: 22 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: LCI kids club Reply with quote

, LCI Kids Club Bldg. Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu
SEOUL, KOREA 135-080

I got a job here...does anyone know much about it around here?
I got the job through my university and had a Korean guy from my university negotiate my contract. I posted the contract long ago but got no replys, if anyone works here...or knows about the franchise, let me know.

I believe it�s a nice place and im really excited to go
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the less than stellar contract you negotiated, am I correct?

Employment Agreement
LCI Acacdemy
#786-15, LCI Kids Club Bldg. Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu
SEOUL, KOREA 135-080

This EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT has been made by and between LCI Academy (hereafter referred to as "The Employer") citizen of (hereafter referred to as "The Teacher") .

I. EMPLOYMENT OF TEACHER

1. Within the parameters of Korean Labor Laws, The Employer hereby employs The Teacher to teach ESL classes under the terms and conditions set forth here in this Agreement.

2. Within the parameters of Korean Labor Laws, The Teacher hereby accepts employment from the Employer to teach ESL under the terms and conditions set forth here in this Agreement.

II. QUALIFICATIONS

The Teacher must be judged qualified to teach and be able to submit all the necessary documents required by the hiring procedure of the Institute. The minimum qualification is an undergraduate degree from a recognized institution in an English-speaking country.

III. PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT

The Place of Employment will be, # 786-15, LCI KIDS CULB building, Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu, Seoul, Korea.

IV. COMPENSATION AND OTHER TREATMENT OF TEACHER

1. Salary

The Employer will pay the Teacher 2.4 million won as compensation for all services rendered per month. This salary will be paid on the 5th day of every month. The Teacher will be paid 60,000won for each training day for the first month. And the basic salary will be paid from the actual teaching starting date. Korean income tax will be deducted from the Teacher�s salary which will be about 3.3%~6.5%. The Teacher�s salary determines the actual amount to be deducted as per Korean labor laws and government directives. At the end of May, the teacher will have to report tax for the tax adjustment.

2. Working hours
Working hours are from 9:30AM ~ 6:50PM Monday to Friday and there�s no class on Saturday.

3. Overtime
If the teacher teaches classes before or after working hour, overtime will be paid at the rate of 18,000 won/hr for before 9 am and 20,000won per hour for after 7 pm.

4. Paid Vacation
The teachers will receive 1week summer vacation and 1week winter vacation as scheduled by the school. Vacation days will include Saturday and Sundays or holidays.

5. Housing
The Employer will select and provide furnished living accommodations for the Teacher.
LCI Academy will provide the teacher with an apartment/house shared by other LCI Academy teachers. The accommodation may be in a two-bedroom apartment. Each teacher will have a private bedroom and will share a kitchen and a bathroom. Furnishings provided by LCI academy for common use include: a kitchen table and chairs, a stove, a refrigerator, a telephone, a television, an air conditioner and a washing machine. Furnishings provided to each teacher include: a bed, and a wardrobe. The cost of monthly service like management fee, telephone charges and the cost of utilities for the accommodation provided will be paid by the teacher.

6. Transportation and Travel expenses
Employer will provide the Teacher with a one-way economy class ticket to Korea. If the Teacher completes the full contract year, the Employer will provide the Teacher with another one-way economy class ticket from Korea to the point of hire at the time of termination of employment.

7. Severance pay
Severance pay, equivalent to one-month�s basic salary, will be provided to the Teacher upon completion of the one-year contract.

8. Medical Insurance
Teacher will have Samsung insurance plan (Please see Appendix A for details). LCI Academy will pay the half of the premium to enroll the plan.


V. DUTIES OF THE TEACHER

1. During the term of this agreement, the Teacher will accept, obey, and comply with any instructions, supervision, training and discipline of the Program director and academic supervisor. Also the teacher is required to submit all the necessary academic and administrative documents on time.
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2. At all times during the term of this Agreement, The teacher should respect and follow the rules and standards of conduct of LCI Academy (written, verbal and tacit). The teacher is required to be punctual, reliable and most of all professional in representing LCI Academy. The dress code at school is smart casual; the teacher is required to dress up with a tie and a shirt (Jeans, shorts, a mini skirt, casual style is not allowed).
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VI. SALARY DEDUCTIONS

1. In case of an absence, the amount equivalent to 1/20 of one-month salary will be deducted from the Teacher's salary, and in case of being late or early leaving, the amount equivalent to 15,000won times the actual class teaching hours for the day will be paid for the teacher�s salary.

2. The Teacher has to be punctual. Three late arrivals or two early leaves will count as one absence.

3. If the Teacher fails to complete the contract through his or her own fault, the Teacher shall pay back the total amount paid by the employer for airplane ticket or the amount the teacher received if the teacher had received money instead of air ticket.

VII. RENEWAL OF CONTRACT

Employer and the Teacher may renew the contract for the period of one year when both parties are mutually agreed.


VIII. TERMINATION OF CONTRACT

Employer will have the right to dismiss the teacher for clear and frequent neglect of duties or incompetence, Prior to any such dismissal, the teacher will be warned of dissatisfaction with performance. Employer reserves the right to terminate this contract for the cause with written notification sixty days in advance, and for serious cause without notice. In the event of termination of contract, employer will not provide a letter of release to the teacher, unless negotiated otherwise.

IX. PERIOD OF EMPLOYMENT

The period of employment under this contract is from \ to . In the event of the teacher's actual arrival on the job does not take place on the commencement date above, the contract period will start from the actual working day. If the contract ends in the middle of the term, the teacher will agree to teach until the last teaching day of that term.



Employee�s full name (print):

Employee�s signature: _______________________________Date:

Employer�s full name (print): Kim, Chul Jin

Employer�s signature: _______________________________Date


Appendix A

Accidental injury / Death or permanent impediment
Death or permanent impediment as a direct result of injury sustained through sudden and accidental occurrence.
Death: Full amount insured.
Permanent impediment: Sliding scale from 3~100% according to the degree of impediment.

Accidental injury / Medical expenses
Medical treatment for injury sustained through sudden and accidental occurrence. Medical expenses actually incurred within 180 days from the date of accident but not exceeding the limit for medical expenses.

Sickness / Medical expenses
Medical treatment for sickness.
Medical expenses actually incurred within 180 days from the date of the first medical examination but not exceeding limit for medical expenses, less deductible of WON 100,000

Special expenses
In case of disappearance of the insured/ In case of death or hospitalization for more than 14 days/Search and rescue expenses/Transportation cost including air fare/Hotelroom charges/Repatriation expenses/Miscellaneous expenses, not exceeding W100,000-

Endorsement for Martyr
The Company will pay the indemnity in accordance with the provisions of this endorsement for bodily injury incurred by any Accident Bodily Injury sustained by the Insured Person and caused under the circumstances defined hereunder Martyr Courtesy Act (martyr to risk bodily injury or his own life for cause) and Enforcement Decree of Martyr Courtesy Act . Such Accidental Bodily Injury Sustained by the Insured Person and caused by any sudden and accidental happening to rescue the third party (life, bodily injury, material property) but not for the course of employment.


Coverage Amount Insured (unit:$)
Accident Death/Physical Impediment 20,000
Medical Expenses 20,000
Illness Medical Expenses(Deductible:WON100,000) 20,000
Special expenses 15,000
Endorsement for Martyr 20,000
Payment Of Premium 212.72


AND NO PENSION


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shifdog



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: LCI kids club Reply with quote

BSchill wrote:

I got the job through my university and had a Korean guy from my university negotiate my contract.


Why in the world would you let someone who is not accepting the job negotiate for you? That is a shїt contract.
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BSchill



Joined: 22 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because I know him personally, he works under my college dean...
Whats the big things wrong with the contract??
no flames needed calling me dumb or anything
just let me know
Very Happy
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( 1 ) No National Health Insurance Plan
( 2 ) Tax issue
( 3 ) No pension clause
( 4 ) Long working hours
( 5 ) You are being underpaid during your "training days" considerably
( 6 ) Low overtime wage for your monthly salary
( 7 ) Vacation days including Saturday & Sunday!
( 8 ) Shared housing
( 9 ) Excessive salary deductions
(10 ) Airfare is usually waived after six (6) months of employment whereas that isn't the case if you "fail to complete the contract through his or her own falt."
( 11 ) No clearly defined period of employment (Just make sure it's written in the labor contract before you sign it)
( 12 ) Appendix A and everything written under it is irrelevant to this contract because enrollment into the NHIP is the law and there should be contractual language that guarantees your employer will enroll you into the National Health Insurance Plan. The powers to be at LCI do employ foreign teachers and are aware of the law.
(13) Sign this contract at your own risk


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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BSchill wrote:
Because I know him personally, he works under my college dean...
Whats the big things wrong with the contract??
no flames needed calling me dumb or anything
just let me know
Very Happy


Everything in red plus your getting stuck in the arse with a huge unlubed pole.. your call as to how much you trust your "friend" but I would definately follow everyone elses words of advice and find a better job.. that franchise definately doesnt have the best rep around..

2. Its a Korean guy and he could care less about you because he's getting paid for a body...

edited for forgetting the Korean guy...
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BSchill



Joined: 22 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garykasparov wrote:
( 1 ) No National Health Insurance Plan
( 2 ) Tax issue
( 3 ) No pension clause
( 4 ) Long working hours
( 5 ) You are being underpaid during your "training days" considerably
( 6 ) Low overtime wage for your monthly salary
( 7 ) Vacation days including Saturday & Sunday!
( 8 ) Shared housing
( 9 ) Excessive salary deductions
(10 ) Airfare is usually waived after six (6) months of employment whereas that isn't the case if you "fail to complete the contract through his or her own falt."
( 11 ) No clearly defined period of employment (Just make sure it's written in the labor contract before you sign it)
( 12 ) Appendix A and everything written under it is irrelevant to this contract because enrollment into the NHIP is the law and there should be contractual language that guarantees your employer will enroll you into the National Health Insurance Plan. The powers to be at LCI do employ foreign teachers and are aware of the law.
(13) Sign this contract at your own risk


Tax issue I wish to know more about, why its and issue and what is the average tax rate for a foreign teacher?

Is pension needed if I am only Stay 1 year? I don�t plan on doing it for a career, unless I really like it a lot.

What is the going rate for training days and overtime pay? From what I read...LCI's is pretty average for those things

Shared housing...I live with my friend who is coming with me. Not an issue for me.

Vacation which includes Saturdays and Sundays, that stinks, I admit. How do I have leverage on changing this?

Which deductions are excessive? The medical? The Taxes? Please elaborate.

Airfare...I will check into this with my contact.

We defined period...it�s from July 17th 2007 to July 16th 2008.

The NHIP is a concern to me...how does it compare to Samsung? What are the differences? Do you pay out to the NHIP with a separate deduction or is that included in your income tax deduction?

Your info is really helpful..sorry about the questions but I am new to this. I feel like Im in a sea of sharks right now. I just dont want to be taken advantage of.
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ur resonses to the last post clearly shows that u have done no research or homework b4 u signed this contact. I can't believe u dont know what a pension is and what it's for. It has nothing to do with u doing this for a career. I worked at kids club in my 2nd year in korea and i hated it, i only lasted 12 weeks and left and it was pretty ugly.

ur korean "friend" is getting paid finders fee from LCI, he is not ur friend and if he tells u that he's not getting paid, he's lying to u
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BSchill wrote:
garykasparov wrote:
( 1 ) No National Health Insurance Plan
( 2 ) Tax issue
( 3 ) No pension clause
( 4 ) Long working hours
( 5 ) You are being underpaid during your "training days" considerably
( 6 ) Low overtime wage for your monthly salary
( 7 ) Vacation days including Saturday & Sunday!
( 8 ) Shared housing
( 9 ) Excessive salary deductions
(10 ) Airfare is usually waived after six (6) months of employment whereas that isn't the case if you "fail to complete the contract through his or her own falt."
( 11 ) No clearly defined period of employment (Just make sure it's written in the labor contract before you sign it)
( 12 ) Appendix A and everything written under it is irrelevant to this contract because enrollment into the NHIP is the law and there should be contractual language that guarantees your employer will enroll you into the National Health Insurance Plan. The powers to be at LCI do employ foreign teachers and are aware of the law.
(13) Sign this contract at your own risk


Tax issue I wish to know more about, why its and issue and what is the average tax rate for a foreign teacher?

Is pension needed if I am only Stay 1 year? I don’t plan on doing it for a career, unless I really like it a lot.

What is the going rate for training days and overtime pay? From what I read...LCI's is pretty average for those things

Shared housing...I live with my friend who is coming with me. Not an issue for me.

Vacation which includes Saturdays and Sundays, that stinks, I admit. How do I have leverage on changing this?

Which deductions are excessive? The medical? The Taxes? Please elaborate.

Airfare...I will check into this with my contact.

We defined period...it’s from July 17th 2007 to July 16th 2008.

The NHIP is a concern to me...how does it compare to Samsung? What are the differences? Do you pay out to the NHIP with a separate deduction or is that included in your income tax deduction?

Your info is really helpful..sorry about the questions but I am new to this. I feel like Im in a sea of sharks right now. I just dont want to be taken advantage of.


yeah pension is needed you get it back when you leave so what you pay and what they pay.. usually turns out to a couple thousand a year... training days in a hagwon are usually nonexistant.. you show up given a schedule and are told to teach... there are exceptions to this but i would say they are rare.. you and you friend are both getting fu**ed... dont do it.. how do we say its just a bad deal... what are they offering you as a starting salary? and other than they are breaking the law if its in red its not right.. unless you like this get or find a different job..
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why are u asking how it compares to samsung? what's that have to do with anything? Just because u signed this contract, doesnt mean u have to go. The school doesnt own u until u have an E2 visa in ur name.

LCI is one of the worst chains in korea/world. IF taxes are above 3.3% they are swcewing u. Pension and health is the law and the school has to pay into it and u need to call both these offices when u get to seoul to make sure a pension fund is set up, esp if u are from north america
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LCI does not train u, they throw u right into the classroom.

they are nickel and diming u and saying these are "training" days so we arent paying u as much.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BSchill wrote:
Tax issue I wish to know more about, why its and issue and what is the average tax rate for a foreign teacher?

Tax on a salary of 2.4 mil your tax is 71380 won - not 3.3-6.5%.


Is pension needed if I am only Stay 1 year? I don�t plan on doing it for a career, unless I really like it a lot.

National pension is required by law (and often avoided by hakwons like this one). Your pension contributions are 4.5% of your salary and are matched by the employer. Assuming you are from North America you get a cash refund from the government for the whole 9% ( 2.592 million per year) when you leave. Hakwons avoid it and save about 1.2 million of YOUR money for their pocket.

What is the going rate for training days and overtime pay? From what I read...LCI's is pretty average for those things.

Training at LCI means you teach and do prep but only get 1/3 of your salary. Great for your boss. Sucks to be you. There is no real training as we would consider training to be. Overtime should be 20k for a 40 minute class, 25k for a 50 minute class and 30k for a full 60 minutes.

Shared housing...I live with my friend who is coming with me. Not an issue for me.

Vacation which includes Saturdays and Sundays, that stinks, I admit. How do I have leverage on changing this?

Which deductions are excessive? The medical? The Taxes? Please elaborate.

The medical they offer is illegal (and useless). It is an emergency travel insurance and medical practitioners in korea do NOT recognise it. It does NOT cover routine, NON emergency care of any kind.

In addition, you are required by law to be enrolled in the national medical plan and your premium is 2.385% of your salary.


Airfare...I will check into this with my contact.

We defined period...it�s from July 17th 2007 to July 16th 2008.

The NHIP is a concern to me...how does it compare to Samsung? What are the differences? Do you pay out to the NHIP with a separate deduction or is that included in your income tax deduction?

See above

Your info is really helpful..sorry about the questions but I am new to this. I feel like Im in a sea of sharks right now. I just dont want to be taken advantage of.


If you stay with LCI I can and will give you a 100%, double your trouble, money lost forever guarentee that you WILL GET SCREWED.
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shifdog



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a few other threads regarding this infamous chain.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=87324&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=86963&highlight=

There are many more threads if you use the search engine.
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