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midgie



Joined: 09 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: anybody happy with their school? Reply with quote

I have read hundreds of posts from people who hate their school/employers/hours/students, etc... Does anyone work at a hagwon they like and feel they are treated well at? I am living in Canada, have already done a year in Busan at ECC (where the Saturdays, overtime and 4 year olds nearly did me in). Can anyone recommend a good school in Busan? I don't mind lots of hours during the week, just don't want to be lied to and get stuck with every Saturday again and don't want to babysit 4 year olds. Anyone have better luck?
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monkinwonderland



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I've not met anyone who likes his/her school, I have to imagine they do exist somewhere. However, you're not likely to find them on Dave's ESL.
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JD1982



Joined: 19 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach at two small public schools.

I hate one, but love the other. It's a crap shoot when it comes to landing a good public school job I guess. Confused
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: anybody happy with their school? Reply with quote

midgie wrote:
I have read hundreds of posts from people who hate their school/employers/hours/students, etc... Does anyone work at a hagwon they like and feel they are treated well at? I am living in Canada, have already done a year in Busan at ECC (where the Saturdays, overtime and 4 year olds nearly did me in). Can anyone recommend a good school in Busan? I don't mind lots of hours during the week, just don't want to be lied to and get stuck with every Saturday again and don't want to babysit 4 year olds. Anyone have better luck?


I like my school 90% of the time but work in a public school and not in a hakwon.

How about a Busan public school job?
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: anybody happy with their school? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
midgie wrote:
I have read hundreds of posts from people who hate their school/employers/hours/students, etc... Does anyone work at a hagwon they like and feel they are treated well at? I am living in Canada, have already done a year in Busan at ECC (where the Saturdays, overtime and 4 year olds nearly did me in). Can anyone recommend a good school in Busan? I don't mind lots of hours during the week, just don't want to be lied to and get stuck with every Saturday again and don't want to babysit 4 year olds. Anyone have better luck?


I like my school 90% of the time but work in a public school and not in a hakwon.

How about a Busan public school job?


I have the exact same view as ttompatz. I also enjoy my public school about 90% of the time...

You did one year of hell at ECC, you might as well give a public school a shot....
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trubadour



Joined: 03 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My hagwon is OK, but its not in Busan.
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hopefully you're not actually going to another hakwon. Try public school but just make sure you inspect the apt. they're putting you up in first. I like 2 out of my 5 schools pretty well. 2 are OK. 1 suks.
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LuckyNomad



Joined: 28 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I absolutely love both schools I work at. I live in Kwangwon Province and teach at an all boys Middle School and at an elementary school. Here's why I love it:

I get about 3 months of vacation a year plus plenty of holidays, exam days(when I don't teach), plus sports days and field trips etc.
I usually teach 4 classes a day. When I'm not teaching, I just sit at my desk surfing the internet and nobody cares.
The majority of the students are great and I have a good relationship with pretty much all of the teachers. Though I don't have any bad relationships with any.
The apartment they gave me is quite large too.
I've never had a bad experience in this country.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My public school is awesome! Great hours (18 hours/week), good coworkers, cheap food, decent students, lots of unexpected time off...

I really don't know why anyone would rather work in a hagwon unless they like staying out all night drinking or are afraid of the larger classes.

for the record, I haven't worked in a hagwon in Korea because I came to the conclusion that that's a dangerous route to go. I also worked for language schools in Japan (not so bad) and China (slave labor), and wanted to try something more "respectable."
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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckyNomad wrote:
I absolutely love both schools I work at. I live in Kwangwon Province and teach at an all boys Middle School and at an elementary school. Here's why I love it:

I get about 3 months of vacation a year plus plenty of holidays, exam days(when I don't teach), plus sports days and field trips etc.
I usually teach 4 classes a day. When I'm not teaching, I just sit at my desk surfing the internet and nobody cares.
The majority of the students are great and I have a good relationship with pretty much all of the teachers. Though I don't have any bad relationships with any.
The apartment they gave me is quite large too.
I've never had a bad experience in this country.


3 months of vacation. Wow. That's more than the Korean teachers get.

Apart from that my situation is pretty much the same as yours with the exception that I only teach at one school (elementary)
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work in a hakwon, but I am quite happy.

There are problems, like any other job, but the hours are pretty low (23 contact hours), I am treated well, and the school values education, so I am being paid to actually be a teacher, not a pronunciation monkey.

I honestly prefer hakwon work because I like being a marketable commodity -- I taught in the US public school system, and innovation is not especially welcome there, as it rocks the boat. Here, if I try something new and it works, I am rewarded (financially or in other ways), and if I try something new and it fails, it is all on me. My current gig is especially nice, but even when I worked at Wonderland I made some extra money because of my "contributions to the operation of the school and development of the curriculum."

I am not sure if you can swing bonuses or perks in a public school gig, and with the larger class sizes and infrequent class meetings, it would be difficult to judge the effectiveness of innovation. I guess I equate the Korean public school system with the US public school system (that whole "public school" thing), so perhaps I am misleading myself.
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lowpo



Joined: 01 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Conservative wrote:
LuckyNomad wrote:
I absolutely love both schools I work at. I live in Kwangwon Province and teach at an all boys Middle School and at an elementary school. Here's why I love it:

I get about 3 months of vacation a year plus plenty of holidays, exam days(when I don't teach), plus sports days and field trips etc.
I usually teach 4 classes a day. When I'm not teaching, I just sit at my desk surfing the internet and nobody cares.
The majority of the students are great and I have a good relationship with pretty much all of the teachers. Though I don't have any bad relationships with any.
The apartment they gave me is quite large too.
I've never had a bad experience in this country.


3 months of vacation. Wow. That's more than the Korean teachers get.

Apart from that my situation is pretty much the same as yours with the exception that I only teach at one school (elementary)


I like the 3 public schools that I work. I hated the hogwan that I worked at last year in Ulsan.
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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
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I am not sure if you can swing bonuses or perks in a public school gig, and with the larger class sizes and infrequent class meetings, it would be difficult to judge the effectiveness of innovation. I.


You certainly can, IF they want YOU to stay as opposed to getting a new teacher.
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Masta_Don



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like my hakwon. They treat me with respect, help me with everything like train tickets or buying guitars online, and I go out eating/drinking with my boss often enough.
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LuckyNomad



Joined: 28 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Conservative wrote:
LuckyNomad wrote:
I absolutely love both schools I work at. I live in Kwangwon Province and teach at an all boys Middle School and at an elementary school. Here's why I love it:

I get about 3 months of vacation a year plus plenty of holidays, exam days(when I don't teach), plus sports days and field trips etc.
I usually teach 4 classes a day. When I'm not teaching, I just sit at my desk surfing the internet and nobody cares.
The majority of the students are great and I have a good relationship with pretty much all of the teachers. Though I don't have any bad relationships with any.
The apartment they gave me is quite large too.
I've never had a bad experience in this country.


3 months of vacation. Wow. That's more than the Korean teachers get.

Apart from that my situation is pretty much the same as yours with the exception that I only teach at one school (elementary)


I said "about," though by my reckoning its more. I get July 26-August 26 off. And all of January and February. Yes I have to do a week of english camps during the summer and winter but I hardly consider those as work, and I get paid an extra $800 in addition to the salary they're paying me. If that isn't a sweet deal, I don't know what is.
And consider the amount of work I didn't do in May. On the 1st, 2nd and 3rd the students had exams so I just sat at my desk. The next week I went on a 3 day field trip across the country(in which all us teachers and the VP got drunk at night while the students were in their motel rooms). and then there was no school on the 10th and 11th. The next week there was no school on the 15th. Then the 21st was a field day and there was no school on the 24th. So I was only teaching 14 days in May. So as I said before, no complaints here.
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