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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Korean Moms!!! Reply with quote

Yeah there's a few hot ones, but that's not the point of this post.


These women drive me bananas!

I mean I hate to lump all Korean moms into one broad categorie. That's ignorant, I know. However, in my two years as a teacher here and half a year in management, I've experienced numerous occasions where moms have griped and complained about the silliest and most trivial little things.

I'm sure most of you have stories to share.


Korean men need to grab their balls and send these women into the workforce. I can totally understand a mother (or even a father) staying at home for their childrens first 3-5 years of life. But once they get into school they should get their azz back to work.

Perhaps then they can stop gossiping at the local McDonalds for lunch and send numerous useless calls to the school/hagwon as to why so and so needs to sit where or why little precious is upset because they were disciplined for whatever reason.

end rant...
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unknown9398



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Location: Yeongcheon, S. Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: Korean Moms!!! Reply with quote

endo wrote:

Korean men need to grab their balls and send these women into the workforce. I can totally understand a mother (or even a father) staying at home for their childrens first 3-5 years of life. But once they get into school they should get their azz back to work.


I couldn't disagree more. I'm sure I'll be labeled a chauvinist, but imo, children are much happier growing up with a parent in the home, especially their mothers. I think it's the most imporant job in the world.
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: Korean Moms!!! Reply with quote

unknown9398 wrote:
endo wrote:

Korean men need to grab their balls and send these women into the workforce. I can totally understand a mother (or even a father) staying at home for their childrens first 3-5 years of life. But once they get into school they should get their azz back to work.


I couldn't disagree more. I'm sure I'll be labeled a chauvinist, but imo, children are much happier growing up with a parent in the home, especially their mothers. I think it's the most imporant job in the world.


I understand what you are saying but the OP said the first 3 to 5 years. After that , kids are in school most of the day. And if mom works Monday through Friday, they won't miss each other much.
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Adam Volle



Joined: 25 May 2007
Location: Colorado

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with 'unknown', and will take it even a step further: When my bride and I have children, it's homeschool all the way.
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Ozabout7or8



Joined: 04 May 2007
Location: NZ

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Unknown too
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see where the OP is going with this.

There's nothing wrong with being around for your kids but don't stick your nose in the classroom when you really don't have a clue and just cause problems for people trying to do their jobs.

Parents need to know when to take a step back and let people do their jobs. Just because your little Timmy or Minsu is in the class, doesn't mean that you have a blank check to run around interfering in the day to day operations of a classroom.

But I'm assuming that this is what the OP is talking about.

Parents haven't bothered me at all but there is the whole language barrier/general sense of nonchalance that helps Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's nothing wrong with being around for your kids but don't stick your nose in the classroom when you really don't have a clue and just cause problems for people trying to do their jobs.

Parents need to know when to take a step back and let people do their jobs. Just because your little Timmy or Minsu is in the class, doesn't mean that you have a blank check to run around interfering in the day to day operations of a classroom.


Indeed.....but more and more parents worldwide are doing just that and are reluctant to see that they have responsibilities and that sometimes their kid is at fault and not the school/teacher.

I heard that song back home as a HS teacher all too often....
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Ozabout7or8



Joined: 04 May 2007
Location: NZ

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's called the free-market Endo, they are paying for the product so have every right to care about how it is provided I reckon.

they obviously care alot about their children's future, enough to take their time to contact the school or hagwon to ensure things are going as planned.

If they sent their kids away somewhere and just didn't giveacrap then i would think less of them than if they were slightly over-zealous in their interest in the education being provided for their hard-earned won.

It is not easy bringing a child up in Korea, nor is it easy for a woman to re-enter the workforce after having children, especially more than one child. For alot of women they would only work again if absolutely necessary and their time is better spent keeping an ordered homelife, some active hobbies and supporting their childrens' education.
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ozabout7or8 wrote

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It's called the free-market Endo, they are paying for the product so have every right to care about how it is provided I reckon.


Its called free time...and too much of it.

Second, the hawgron system has little to do with the "free market."
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Damulgun



Joined: 11 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I mean I hate to lump all Korean moms into one broad categorie. That's ignorant, I know. However, in my two years as a teacher here and half a year in management, I've experienced numerous occasions where moms have griped and complained about the silliest and most trivial little things.


And ESL teachers don't?
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damulgun wrote:
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I mean I hate to lump all Korean moms into one broad categorie. That's ignorant, I know. However, in my two years as a teacher here and half a year in management, I've experienced numerous occasions where moms have griped and complained about the silliest and most trivial little things.


And ESL teachers don't?



English is a foreign , not a second language in Korea. So , I guess you are not talking about us!
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Peter Jackson



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Moms Reply with quote

After being in Korea for about 4 and a half years I came to know a little about the place. Many of my previous beliefs and preconceptions of the place changed. However, Korean moms DID seem to be very annoying, meddling, ignorant, etc. in regards to their children's "education". I could not really compare Korean moms to any other mom so I did some "research".

My sister is an early child educater in Canada, has been for years. Whenever we have a chance to talk she tells me about all the HORRIBLE Korean moms at her pre-school. Unruly, bratty kids and how moms have no regard for rules, routines, etc. Now since I was in Korea for an extended period I would like to set her wrong (as I have done in many cases about other false impressions of Koreans) in this BUT I have to agree with her.

I've also been working at a local high school and happened into a lunch hour discussion. Four teachers discussing a couple "problem" parents, and by the the words they were saying I just knew the moms were Korean.

My brother in law coaches kids hockey and one of the players is Korean. Now my brother in law is of CHINESE decent and constantly laments not only about the bratty un-cooperative kid but about his unruly, meddling mom! I wish I could say, "you're being racist and making generalizations" but....would it be true?

In short, Korean moms can be some of the worst....
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monkinwonderland



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Volle wrote:
I'm with 'unknown', and will take it even a step further: When my bride and I have children, it's homeschool all the way.


Call me old-fashioned, but I don't think women should be allowed to vote.
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Dysupes



Joined: 24 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of people are jumping on the OP saying "Korean moms have the right to care about the education they are paying for," etc. but I don't think that was his point at all. The point is that they complain and complain and complain but, in my experience, the complaining almost never actually has to do with the child's education. They are much more concerned with the status the child has or the day to day, totally non-educational aspects of the school. We had one mom who complained that her two boys couldn't be in the same class because one was older. Ok, kids are separated and I can understand. But then, not only can they not be in the same class but, for the exact same reason, they must also come at different times and must have different teachers. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Because of this one mom we had to create an whole new class. Sounds bit overboard, don't you agree? Evil or Very Mad
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JD1982



Joined: 19 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ozabout7or8 wrote:
I'm with Unknown too


I agree with Unknown and Oz as well.

Isn't this wrong forum to complain about mothers?
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