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travisabroad
Joined: 30 May 2007
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 Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: Any American get their degree abroad? |
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| I got my B.A. from the American University of Paris -- which is accredited in the U.S. and holds classes in English -- and now want to go teach abroad to pay off my loans. I just heard from one recruiter I was working with (ESL Elite) that she doesn't think the Korean Embassy will accept my diploma because it was from a non-English speaking country. They haven't actually seen my diploma yet, as it's currently at my parent's house and I'm getting it this weekend -- but does anyone have any advice? Suggestions? |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| About six months ago there was a guy posting here (forgot his handle) that graduated from American university of Athens, Greece. He could not teach in Korea because of various stupid immigration rules. He was an American. I wish I could point you to the thread, there was a lot of useful information in it. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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A day or two ago some guy posted how he was refused a visa because his diploma was in Latin, even though it was from a university in an English speaking country.
The moral of the story: don't expect Korean immigration to do the intelligent thing. Expect them to see "Paris" and deny you a visa without looking any further. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah I heard the same from Dave's. Thank all those guys who get fake degrees in Thailand for this. The losers and cheaters ruin it here for those of us who worked hard and led honest lives. |
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kat2
Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes you must be a citizen of one of the seven countries, and have also earned your degree in one of them. (UK, US, Canada, South Africa, Ireland, NZ, Australia) |
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Freaka
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperFly wrote: |
| About six months ago there was a guy posting here (forgot his handle) that graduated from American university of Athens, Greece. He could not teach in Korea because of various stupid immigration rules. He was an American. I wish I could point you to the thread, there was a lot of useful information in it. |
That's just plain dumb. He's a native speaker with a degree. If I were a native speaker with a degree in Knitting from some no-name school in the States, I would be allowed to teach English in Korea. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Freaka wrote: |
| SuperFly wrote: |
| About six months ago there was a guy posting here (forgot his handle) that graduated from American university of Athens, Greece. He could not teach in Korea because of various stupid immigration rules. He was an American. I wish I could point you to the thread, there was a lot of useful information in it. |
That's just plain dumb. He's a native speaker with a degree. If I were a native speaker with a degree in Knitting from some no-name school in the States, I would be allowed to teach English in Korea. |
Thank the losers with fake degrees bought in Thailand for that. |
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koon_taung_daeng
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| no thanks stupid ass korean immigration for not checking the fake degrees |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| I've studied and have been awarded quals from China, Spain and India. However, I don't mention these so as not to "allow" supervisors/directors/administrators an opportunity to claim they can pay less based on higher degrees not coming from my home country. MY MA from home settles any argument provided I claim that as my highest award. |
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travisabroad
Joined: 30 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: Ugh |
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| Well that's frustrating. I guess I'll try my best to explain the situation and see how far that gets me. Thanks so much for all the responses though |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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I communicated with a guy that has a "lot" to do with degree-mills (I suspect; profitably, too) whose legal team claimed that if you graduate from the university you studied with, you are legally within your rights to redesign your degree. (You could probably do this so it looks more western; just a thought).
BTW: EFL-LAW offers an accredited 120 hr online tefl which is worth looking into.
I had my MA stolen and my replacement looks nothing like my original so I guess universities make changes when it pleases them too. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| koon_taung_daeng wrote: |
| no thanks stupid ass korean immigration for not checking the fake degrees |
They are indeed to blame as well. But we all do benefit from the quick turn around time immigration offers for E2 visas. There are a lot of universities in the world. Who knows how long the visa processing would be if Korean immigration was more thorough. |
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