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[stevemcgarrett]

Saad Hariri, the oppositional leader in Beirut and son of the assassinated president of Lebanon has given an interview to CNN International in the wake of the recent assassination of an anti-Syrian MP that ought to be required reading for all those who have sincere doubts about the intentions of Syria and Iran in the Middle East.

He holds no punches, rightly labeling Assad a terrorist and Ahmadinejad as an enabler of terrorism in Syria and Iraq. (Druze leader Walid Jumblatt also decried the Syrian campaign of interference elsewhere today).

[cbclark4]

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[ddeubel]

STevie "I wonder" boy o boy,

First of all, which "left" are you talking about? And is that the only framework you can channel discussion through. Me wonders.

Second, there has been no dearth of discussion, writing and programming on the assassinations, Hizbollah and syria/iran and this region in general. I watched a whole series of programs on it yesterday.

Yes, I think he has valid concerns. Lebanon too often has been at the mercy of foreign powers. But let's also say things as they should be. Many foreign powers other than Syria and Iran are interested in destabilization. Let's look at Israel's own policy of state sponsored and ordered assassination as well as that of the U.S. (though suppossedly taken off the books by Reagan.).

Let's also look at this in total. The farce of the U.S. supplying guns to those of Fatah who now in Lebanon are causing destruction and killing with U.S. guns. Same with Gaza at present, Israel letting in arms for Hamas, so the killing can continue. Many U.S. free shippments of arms to this region. 68 million dollars of light arms allocated officially by congress last session.

So let's call it as it is. Many rotten eggs. Quit your one eyed cyclops routine.

And yes, I don't doubt Syria and Iran were meddling, like Turkey with its camps inside Iraq and the U.S. with military bases in Saudi Arabia and Iraq and CIA abductions in Egypt and elsewhere..... and all the other above.

DD

[Adventurer]

When Syria was feeling the pressure to leave, Haririri got assassinated and the assassinations haven't ended. I would point the finger at Syria, not Israel. I am not saying Israel wouldn't assassinate someone. They have done such things, but Eiddo was clearly anti-Syrian, pushing for a trial of pro-Syrian agents, so it seems like the obvious suspsects would be pro-Syrian agents. Syria did assassinate the father of Walid Jumblatt who was a trust Leftist. Kamal was a socialist while Syria claimed to be a socialist country with principles. The USSR was not happy when Kamal Jumblatt was killed. His son was threatened. Rafiq Al Hariri before he died told Walid Jumblatt that he was threatened by Syria. This is what the man said before he died. If the threats were there against Hariri and from Syria, it means that is very believable that their Syrian and pro-Syrian Lebanese agents are at working wreacking havoc in Lebanon.
They are killing mainly Christians to try to bring down the opposition without creating a fight between the Shiites and Sunnis. Basically, they want to inflict political damage without making Lebanon go up completely in an inferno.

[stevemcgarrett]

Ddeubel wrote:

[ddeubel]

[cbclark4]

[stevemcgarrett]

Ddeubel wrote:

[postfundie]

[The_Conservative]

[Adventurer]

[quote="ddeubel"]

[ddeubel]

Adventurer,

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I don't deny that Syria is responsible. I also think they should be held to task and the Lebanon has a fight on its hands in this regard.

My remarks were addressed at those who would hold Syria to task and not Israel, for the same illicit behaviour and state sponsored terrorism. I won't get into it and I am sure you know full well what I mean.

Stevie on the other hand, just swallows and says whatever "evil" Israel does under its guise and superior military power, is okay. Justified, like an ld testament righteous godly plaguing of frogs or destruction of Sodom. I reject that. There is no justification for the killing of innocents or for not pursuing with all their means, peace. Israel isn't doing that and the actions I wrote about, support that.

Stevie should watch that old McClaren video short, Neighbours. Fact is, until Israel rejects the old Moshe Dyan policy of "get them first", it will continue to be tainted with blood and evil. Same as the others. And no peace will happen.

DD

Here is something for those like postfundie and Stevie who glorify their own versions of fanatical terror.

[mcgeezer]

stervemcgarrett wrote:

[Pligganease]

[Adventurer]