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cbclark4

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject: When Cousins aren't... |
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COLORADO CITY, Ariz. - In a dusty neighborhood under sheer sandstone cliffs studded with juniper on the Arizona-Utah border, a rare genetic disorder is spreading through polygamous families on a wave of inbreeding.
The twin border communities of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz., have the world�s highest known prevalence of fumarase deficiency, an enzyme irregularity that causes severe mental retardation brought on by cousin marriage, doctors say.
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bignate

Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Location: Hell's Ditch
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Man.......that's retarded. |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Mitt Romney for President! |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: |
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You are all mormonophobic bigots. Racists, in fact. |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: |
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To be fair, you can marry your first cousin in a lot of places legally. Check it out!
from http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriagelicenses/a/cousin.htm
Note: All states allow the marriage of second cousins.
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# Alabama: First cousins, yes.
# Alaska: First cousins, yes.
# Arizona: First cousins, yes, only if they are over a certain age or cannot bear children. Half cousins, yes.
# Arkansas: No
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# California: First cousins, yes.
# Colorado: First cousins, yes.
# Connecticut: First cousins, yes.
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# Delaware: No
# District of Columbia: First cousins, yes.
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# Florida: First cousins, yes.
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# Georgia: First cousins, yes.
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# Hawaii: First cousins, yes.
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# Idaho: No
# Illinois: First cousins, yes, only if they are over a certain age or cannot bear children.
# Indiana: First cousins once removed, yes, only if they are over a certain age or cannot bear children.
# Iowa: No
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# Kansas: Half cousins, yes.
# Kentucky: No
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# Louisiana: Adopted cousins, yes.
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# Maine: First cousins, yes, only if they are over a certain age or cannot bear children, or if they get genetic counseling.
# Maryland: First cousins, yes.
# Massachusetts: First cousins, yes.
# Michigan: No
# Minnesota: No, unless aboriginal culture of the couple permits cousin marriages.
# Mississippi: Adopted cousins, yes.
# Missouri: No
# Montana: Half cousins, yes.
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# Nebraska: Half cousins, yes.
# Nevada: Half cousins, yes.
# New Hampshire: No
# New Jersey: First cousins, yes.
# New Mexico: First cousins, yes.
# New York: First cousins, yes.
# North Carolina: First cousins, yes. Double first cousins are not allowed to get married.
# North Dakota: No
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# Ohio: No
# Oklahoma: Half cousins, yes.
# Oregon: Adopted cousins, yes.
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# Pennsylvania: No
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# Rhode Island: First cousins, yes.
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# South Carolina: First cousins, yes.
# South Dakota: No
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# Tennessee: First cousins, yes.
# Texas: No.
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# Utah: First cousins, yes, only if they are over a certain age or cannot bear children.
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# Vermont: First cousins, yes.
# Virginia: First cousins, yes.
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# Washington: No
# West Virginia: Adopted cousins, yes.
# Wisconsin: First cousins once removed, yes, only if they are over a certain age or cannot bear children.
# Wyoming: No |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Had a VERY HOT first cousin growing up. Only in adulthood did I learn he was only a half.
Heck, I would have done his grandpa! |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:49 am Post subject: |
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And according to a wesbite dedicated to the subject...
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Fact: No European country prohibits marriage between first cousins. It is also legal throughout Canada and Mexico to marry your cousin. The USA is the only western country with cousin marriage restrictions.
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Charles Darwin and Albert Einstein were married to their first cousins, as I recall.
http://tinyurl.com/y7fdtv |
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seoulshock
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Hmm... does this mean it's not so bad if I bang my cousin? |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote: |
And according to a wesbite dedicated to the subject...
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Fact: No European country prohibits marriage between first cousins. It is also legal throughout Canada and Mexico to marry your cousin. The USA is the only western country with cousin marriage restrictions.
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Charles Darwin and Albert Einstein were married to their first cousins, as I recall.
http://tinyurl.com/y7fdtv |
Wasn't hmmm FDR and Eleanor related?....distant cousins
Of course Eurose won't prohibit marriage between first cousin...All their royal houses would implode otherwise. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Wasn't hmmm FDR and Eleanor related?....distant cousins |
Yep, quite distant I think. Eleanor was Theodore Roosevelt's niece. Her maiden and married names were the same. |
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dogshed

Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: When Cousins aren't... |
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cbclark4 wrote: |
COLORADO CITY, Ariz. - In a dusty neighborhood under sheer sandstone cliffs studded with juniper on the Arizona-Utah border, a rare genetic disorder is spreading through polygamous families on a wave of inbreeding.
The twin border communities of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz., have the world�s highest known prevalence of fumarase deficiency, an enzyme irregularity that causes severe mental retardation brought on by cousin marriage, doctors say.
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It's marriage in a small group that does it. Not marrying cousins. |
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dogshed

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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~omar/relatives.html
This was written by one of my professors in college. In a lecture
he said that most medical people and geneticists just assumed
that cousin marriage was bad and never actually did the mathematical
calculations.
Basically only states formed after "social darwinism" became popular
have the anti cousin marriage laws. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: |
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cbc wrote: |
It's marriage in a small group that does it. Not marrying cousins. |
Yes, this is what I understand. Also, quite interestingly, I once read that genetic problems were more common between second cousins, than first cousins. Though I would like to see that verified. And I'm not sure if it was for problems in general, or just certain problems. |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:51 am Post subject: Re: When Cousins aren't... |
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dogshed wrote: |
cbclark4 wrote: |
COLORADO CITY, Ariz. - In a dusty neighborhood under sheer sandstone cliffs studded with juniper on the Arizona-Utah border, a rare genetic disorder is spreading through polygamous families on a wave of inbreeding.
The twin border communities of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz., have the world�s highest known prevalence of fumarase deficiency, an enzyme irregularity that causes severe mental retardation brought on by cousin marriage, doctors say.
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It's marriage in a small group that does it. Not marrying cousins. |
Word....
French Canadians
Cajuns
Mennonites
The Amish
etc. etc.
They are all at a higher risk for certain genetic disorders due to a smaller gene pool. Not because they necessarily married their cousins... |
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