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Who has the best beer?
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was in Germany I got hooked on wheat beer; Bavaria makes the best. I have tried non-German wheat beers and they were very good, but have not had one come close to the Bavarian ones.
On another note, for all you beer lovers check out this sight.
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jacktar



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:13 am    Post subject: mmmm....beer Reply with quote

Black Horse rocks The Rock. Bin Tang from Indonesia is quite good too but it's really just a Becks rip off. Does the trick though.
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mishlert wrote:
San Miguel is Filipino beer, not Chinese or Mexican..


I know that. I write rather stream of consciousness-like and just added my two won about it.

Negro Modelo isn�t half bad: a reliable beer.


Cheers,

Joe
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Eunoia



Joined: 06 Jul 2003
Location: In a seedy karakoe bar by the banks of the mighty Bosphorus

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Hite Prime for me, but it's hard to find in restaurants and bars for some reason. Failing that, Cass is acceptable. The old OB (lager) was MUCH better than the new swill (OB Beer) they're producing.

On a not-quite-related note, When I was back in Canada I never touched Molson or Labatt's; that stuff is just too weak and light tasting for me, I was always into microbrews - pale ales, pilsners, stouts, etc. After 2 years in K-land I went back home and tried a Pale Ale (Okanagan Spring, my hometown pride Laughing ) and was almost knocked off my chair by the intensity. Had a similar but not so extreme experience here when I tried a Molson Canadian after 10 months of Korean beer, couldn't believe that it actually had flavour.

By the way, I love that quote about sorrow and pleasure. Where'd you get it from?
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Joe Thanks wrote:
Taiwan Beer is the worst on planet earth: 90% chemical and guaranteed to give you a headache (even die-hard alcoholics! after two beers because it�s basically canned formaldehyde.


I have to definetely agree with that.. I almost never get headaches or hangover.. never. But my 4 nights in Taiwan gave me headaches every single morning.. I just couldn't figure out why until now..

Now I know why the drinking scene down there wasn't so good.. and few drink comparitively to here, etc.


To generalize, Taiwanese don�t party, really. When guys drink they go for piss-horrid, medicinal, bitter hard stuff like Kaoliang and �whispby� cut with jackfruit liquor or rat in a bottle stuff. Most of the hardcore drinkers are laborers too.

I miss the Korean drinking spirit and camaraderie.

Taiwan beer is the preferred local beer in Taiwan because it�s cheap, it was all they had for so long, and Taiwanese seem to like chemically-tasting stuff (try their �soft drinks.�


Cheers,

Joe
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:

Taiwanese beers are not too good but better than what Korea is doing right now with beer..



I strongly disagree, unless Korean breweries decided to speed up the beer making process by adding copious amounts of formaldehyde into their brew.

Lion lager from South Africa is a chemically treated beer and has the taste to accompany that, but it doesn�t cripple a person with a headache after two beers. I�m a hardcore drinker and NEVER had I gotten so ill as having two Taiwan beers. I had to take an aspirin just to be able to get rid of the headache. This happened twice: twice bitten, forever shy.

No Korean beer ever did that to me.

Cheers,

Joe
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Guinness-nuff said.



I'll be the first to admit, and go against the oh-so-shiek image and attitude that Guinness and most of its drinkers seem to have and state the fact that Guinness is indeed, 100% pure crap.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Thanks wrote:
I miss the Korean drinking spirit and camaraderie.


Are you in Taiwan now?
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw Tiger Beer here in a local bar in Cheonan! Ah-ah-ah-ah!
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
I saw Tiger Beer here in a local bar in Cheonan! Ah-ah-ah-ah!


I've been there a couple times Wink I got a really good friend teaching at Hoseo University..

Actually I passed through Cheonan just briefly last weekend.. took the hour train to Cheonan and my friend drove the car to Andong for the Mask Festival.. good trip..

There are alot of foreigners running around Cheonan on my passing through this time around.. quite surprised
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FierceInvalid



Joined: 16 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TB raised a decent point...that area/climate affects how "good" a beer is for that time or place. Beers from hot-climate countries tend to taste weak and watery if you're further north somewhere and it's not the heat of summer, but they can be refreshing and really nice if you're in a sweltering place. Likewise, bitters are some of my favourite beers, but tend to come from coutries with winters and suit that a bit better. A really good brew is always good, but some of the middle-ground beers (Singha, for example) can be much better at some times than at others.
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Joe Thanks wrote:
I miss the Korean drinking spirit and camaraderie.


Are you in Taiwan now?



I left in the summer, after two years .The way the government handled the SARS epidemic, and the way so many locals behaved during it convinced me to get out. Aside from those things, the locals� driving behavior and the pollution were the only horrible parts about living there. Had SARS never happened I�d still be working there.

Cheers,

Joe
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Thanks wrote:
The way the government handled the SARS epidemic, and the way so many locals behaved during it convinced me to get out.


Joe, I agree with you regarding the behaviour of the locals. Hope you didn't leave for fear of catching SARS, though.

And talk about Taiwan 'shooting itself in the foot' - a lot of businesses went under - hotels, restaurants, etc because of the way they went on and on and on about it.

Taiwan is one of those countries (lawless isn't exactly the term but close) where the government or police, etc aren't really going to look out for your - the general public's - best interest.

People do what they want here - drive down the wrong side of the street, weaving in and out of the on-coming traffic on your scooter, ride up onto the sidewalk, etc, etc, etc.

Taiwan is a, King of the Jungle kind of place - the weak are best to back down or they'll get run over!

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Aside from those things, the locals’ driving behavior and the pollution were the only horrible parts about living there.

Yes. Everything else - the temperatures right now - is great! They're just strarting to 'freeze their asses' off up in Canada, Japan and Korea now.
- Close to 30c degrees today in Taipei!
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="TECO"]
Joe, I agree with you regarding the behaviour of the locals. Hope you didn't leave for fear of catching SARS, though.


That was a minor part. Very minor. The big thing though � the kicker, the 99.9% reason I split is because it showed how the country would act and react in the face of a bigger crisis. Small nations are a ship and it�s sink or swim, and in Taiwan since there are no navigators (the government�s mired in ethnocentric political partisanism with pan-blue/green camp bullshit.) it's sink; as I see it..

It�s like DAWN OF THE DEAD: everything runs with abandon and all works until the �bikers� (i. e. SARS, China, earthquakes of devastating proporations) arrive and you�ve got this new problem atop the old problem thrown back in your face and you not only lose the "mall" (a good life) but possibly your life.

In Taiwan, down to its funerary rights � money and face are above all else, and I value my life to a point where money can�t buy it and face is a game for schoolchildren. I think a sense of humility, basic respect for one�s safety, and a level head about money are worth more than wasting time on a ship that seems to want to sink � so I swam after two years.



I also like seasonal changes:they make life interesting for me.

Cheers,

Joe
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SarcasmKills wrote:
Quote:
Guinness-nuff said.



I'll be the first to admit, and go against the oh-so-shiek image and attitude that Guinness and most of its drinkers seem to have and state the fact that Guinness is indeed, 100% pure crap.


IAWTP
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