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thepeel
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 Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: Pakistan, Iran denouce Rushdie knighthood as islamophobic |
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| ISLAMABAD � Pakistani legislators passed a government-backed resolution Monday demanding that Britain withdraw the knighthood awarded to author Salman Rushdie, condemning the honour as an insult to the religious sentiments of Muslims. |
http://www.theglobeandmail.com
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Iran Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini said the decision to praise the "apostate" showed Islamophobia among British officials. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6760927.stm
And for the obedient muslim who finally offs this Kuffar:
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An Iranian foundation meanwhile raised a bounty to 150,000 dollars for anyone who killed Rushdie, the Fars news agency reported Sunday. |
http://news.monstersandcritics.com
islamophobia is really getting out of control in Europe. The anti-muslim racism is astounding.
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Your links are creating a lot of sidescroll.
I draw this to your attention only because I think it might be an interesting topic, but sidescroll is always kind of an impediment to reading the thread. |
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Treefarmer
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| It is a strange knighthood, he's only famous because of the Fatwa, I don't think I've even heard of any of his books except Satanic Verses tbh |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| It is a strange knighthood, he's only famous because of the Fatwa |
I would agree that the fatwa increased the guy's fame exponentially. However, I don't think it's quite accurate to imply that he wouldn't be getting a knighthood without the fatwa. There are numerous people who have gotten knighthoods without being particularly famous.
V.S. Naipaul was knighted by the Queen in 1990, eleven years before he won the Nobel Prize. I'd imagine that his fame at the time was about on par with the pre-fatwa Rushdie.
Incidentally, Naipaul also wrote a book critical of Islam, called Among The Believers. I wonder if anyone here has read it. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| It is a strange knighthood, he's only famous because of the Fatwa, I don't think I've even heard of any of his books except Satanic Verses tbh |
I'm sorry, but that is because you don't read. His short stories are fantastic. He is an excellent writer.
Back to my op. They will eventually kill him. 150k is enough to motivate even the most lazy of jihadi. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| It is a strange knighthood, he's only famous because of the Fatwa |
Incidentally, Naipaul also wrote a book critical of Islam, called Among The Believers. I wonder if anyone here has read it. |
I will have by next week. Thanks for the pointer. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Good grief. Here we go again with the rioting and calls for bombings.
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"This is an occasion for the (world's) 1.5 billion Muslims to look at the seriousness of this decision," Mohammed Ijaz ul-Haq, religious affairs minister, said in parliament.
�The West is accusing Muslims of extremism and terrorism. If someone exploded a bomb on his body, he would be right to do so unless the British government apologizes and withdraws the �sir� title,� ul-Haq said. �
In the eastern city of Multan, hard-line Muslim students burned effigies of Queen Elizabeth II and Rushdie. About 100 students carrying banners condemning the author also chanted, �Kill him! Kill him!� |
Apologize or face bombs. That is the message from the "religious affairs minister" from the Pakistani government. The man appointed as the "religious affairs minister".
Got that? The "religious affairs minister" of a nuclear armed country called for suicide bombings in retaliation for a knighting of a man who wrote a book. A book.
The "religious affairs minister".
Some choice pics.
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Treefarmer
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: |
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if i was gonna write a book slating religion i reckon i'd slate buddhists, their extremists aren't even allowed to hurt insects  |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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The outbursts have raised fears that the controversy will spiral out of control in the
As a backlash begins in the Muslim world against Rushdie's knighthood, same way as last year's furore over 12 cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed published in a Danish newspaper.
There were violent protests throughout Europe and the Middle East, Danish citizens were warned not to travel to Arab countries and more than a dozen countries removed Danish goods from their shops. |
This will spiral out of control on Friday, when the ROP members leave Friday prayers.
Some are already insisting on dhimnitude and surrender.
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Labour's Lord Ahmed expressed surprise at the decision to give a knighthood to Rushdie, who was placed under a fatwa, or death sentence, by Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini 18 years ago after the publication of the allegedly blasphemous The Satanic Verses.
"I was appalled to hear Salman Rushdie had been given a knighthood," Lord Ahmed said.
"Two weeks ago the Prime Minister was calling for building relations between the Muslim world and Britain, then suddenly this knighthood is given to a man who has not only been abusive to Muslims, but also to Christians - because he used abusive language towards Jesus Christ." |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk
�Building relations� means obedience.
It is starting� Lebanon, palestine, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan. The islamic world is about to erupt.
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Large teams of newly trained suicide bombers are being sent to the United States and Europe, according to evidence contained on a new videotape obtained by the Blotter on ABCNews.com.
Teams assigned to carry out attacks in the United States, Canada, Great Britain and Germany were introduced at an al Qaeda/Taliban training camp graduation ceremony held June 9.
A Pakistani journalist was invited to attend and take pictures as some 300 recruits, including boys as young as 12, were supposedly sent off on their suicide missions.
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/06/exclusive_suici.html |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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delete, see below
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Some are already insisting on dhimnitude and surrender.
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Labour's Lord Ahmed expressed surprise at the decision to give a knighthood to Rushdie, who was placed under a fatwa, or death sentence, by Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini 18 years ago after the publication of the allegedly blasphemous The Satanic Verses.
"I was appalled to hear Salman Rushdie had been given a knighthood," Lord Ahmed said.
"Two weeks ago the Prime Minister was calling for building relations between the Muslim world and Britain, then suddenly this knighthood is given to a man who has not only been abusive to Muslims, but also to Christians - because he used abusive language towards Jesus Christ."
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Well, the guy is entitled to his own opinion about who is and who is not a suitable candidate for knighthood. Just because Rushdie had a lethal fatwa placed upon him does not automatically mean that everyone has to agree that he is a great writer and human being, worthy of high honors.
Personally, I don't really care. I've only read a collection of essays and a few op-eds by Rushdie, plus a couple of interviews. Give him a medal, or don't, it's all the same to me. But I don't think it's fair to automatically lump in ANY criticism of Rushdie with the people who have endorsed the fatwa. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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OTOH,
He is not opposing it for literary reasons, but because it will upset the Religion of Peace.
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"Two weeks ago the Prime Minister was calling for building relations between the Muslim world and Britain, then suddenly this knighthood is given to a man who has not only been abusive to Muslims, |
Under no circumstances should a decision such as this be made based upon what will make muslims riot and kill. |
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On the other hand
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"Two weeks ago the Prime Minister was calling for building relations between the Muslim world and Britain, then suddenly this knighthood is given to a man who has not only been abusive to Muslims,
Under no circumstances should a decision such as this be made based upon what will make muslims riot and kill |
I don't see where the guy is saying that that is the reason he objects to the award, that it will make Muslims riot and kill. He's implying that it will damage relations with the Muslim world. Which is probably true.
If Bill Clinton had said "I really want to reach out to Christian fundamentalists", and then a week later announced that he was giving the Presidential Medal Of Freedom to Larry Flynt, I don't think it would be treasonous for a Christian fundamentalist to point out that the award wouldn't do much to further Clinton's professed goals. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see where the guy is saying that that is the reason he objects to the award, that it will make Muslims riot and kill. He's implying that it will damage relations with the Muslim world. Which is probably true. |
"Building relations" means keeping muslims from being violent. You know that. I know that. This Labour dude knows that. Even the muslims know that.
In case you want evidence that "building relations means keeping them from rioting:
But lets forget about this very minor detail. I don't even care. Friday, we will see how far this is going to go.
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see where the guy is saying that that is the reason he objects to the award, that it will make Muslims riot and kill. He's implying that it will damage relations with the Muslim world. Which is probably true. |
"Building relations" means keeping muslims from being violent. You know that. I know that. This Labour dude knows that. Even the muslims know that. |
Well, then you shouldn't just be objecting to the peer's comments, you should be objecting every time Blair or anyone else says something along the lines of "we want to build relations with the Muslim world." Because according to you, that's just code for "please don't kill us."
But it does lead me to wonder exactly how you would want politicians to address the Muslim world, given that "building relations" is pretty standard boilerplate for diplomatic rhetoric when dealing with any part of the world. |
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