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PimpofKorea



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: A loner....a rebel Reply with quote

A post by normalcyispasse made me think about something. I'm pretty much a loner. I never could bring myself to hangout with the waygook crowds or even Koreans. I don't give a crap about Korean culture and don't care much more for whitey culture. I don't even work with other Koreans or white people...and I can't work with co-workers. Every job I have ever had for any length of time has been a job where I had no coworkers or not part of a team.....mostly just independent jobs. I think I remember always getting the lowest marks on "doesn't play well with others" on my elementary report cards. Anywho...anybody else out there have the same thing going on in Korea..or elsewhere?
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Masta_Don



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

왕따
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DRAMA OVERKILL



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I associate "loner" with "antisocial", and "rebel" with "resisting the norm"...

If that's the case, where would you fit it?

Often, I prefer to sit in at home and play my guitar while everyone else in Korea is out getting pissed. So, I guess that would make me a bit of both - an antisocial who resists the norm.
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adventureman



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are obviously craving some form of attention, otherwise wouldn't be logging on here everyday trying to impress people with your "witty" banter.
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Areut



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adventureman wrote:
You are obviously craving some form of attention, otherwise wouldn't be logging on here everyday trying to impress people with your "witty" banter.

I agree!!!!!!!!
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yesnoyesyesno



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: A loner....a rebel Reply with quote

PimpofKorea wrote:
A post by normalcyispasse made me think about something. I'm pretty much a loner. I never could bring myself to hangout with the waygook crowds or even Koreans. I don't give a crap about Korean culture and don't care much more for whitey culture. I don't even work with other Koreans or white people...and I can't work with co-workers. Every job I have ever had for any length of time has been a job where I had no coworkers or not part of a team.....mostly just independent jobs. I think I remember always getting the lowest marks on "doesn't play well with others" on my elementary report cards. Anywho...anybody else out there have the same thing going on in Korea..or elsewhere?


same situation here exactly. the internet is a god send for people like me... i've gone days without talking to any real people and i find chatting for a few minutes on the messengers is good enough social activity to get me through
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: A loner....a rebel Reply with quote

PimpofKorea wrote:
I don't give a crap about Korean culture and don't care much more for whitey culture. I don't even work with other Koreans or white people...and I can't work with co-workers.


But yet your Mom loves you, doesn't she? You didn't hatch from an egg, I hope?

Seriously, tho, I know exactly what you're talking about. Who else is an antisocial, sociopathic, solitude-farking solo seeker? Never mind, you don't have to prove anything to anyone! Please, put away that shotgun I'm not selling encyclopedias or a tax collector (backs slowly off the porch).

Most normal, la-di-da social types leave Korea because they can't stand the 'isolation'. Pussies. I'll bet I could isolation-withstand ANYONE here under the table! What, no takers? Hahaha, that just feeeeeeeds my isolation, I love it!!!!Hahahaha

*ahem*
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twg



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRAMA OVERKILL wrote:
and "rebel" with "resisting the norm"...

What makes "the norm" so brilliant then that everyone has to follow it? We're not sheep
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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: A loner....a rebel Reply with quote

PimpofKorea wrote:
A post by normalcyispasse made me think about something. I'm pretty much a loner. I never could bring myself to hangout with the waygook crowds or even Koreans. I don't give a crap about Korean culture and don't care much more for whitey culture. I don't even work with other Koreans or white people...and I can't work with co-workers. Every job I have ever had for any length of time has been a job where I had no coworkers or not part of a team.....mostly just independent jobs. I think I remember always getting the lowest marks on "doesn't play well with others" on my elementary report cards. Anywho...anybody else out there have the same thing going on in Korea..or elsewhere?


One wonders then what you are doing on Dave's with over 100 posts per month if you are so anti-social....
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DRAMA OVERKILL



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
DRAMA OVERKILL wrote:
and "rebel" with "resisting the norm"...

What makes "the norm" so brilliant then that everyone has to follow it? We're not sheep


Dude, think of it in context and figure it out...
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Paddycakes



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Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant is of course subjective.

There are a lot of benefits to conforming and drinking from the Kool-aid.

It's important to classify your Loner type.

There are loners who are loners because they have no choice.

And then there are loners who are loners because they reject the majority of people out there.
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddycakes wrote:

There are loners who are loners because they have no choice.

And then there are loners who are loners because they reject the majority of people out there.


If you're not a loner by choice, are you going to admit to yourself that no one likes you? Further, how many "loners" who think they made a choice really just grew into that "choice," and now act like they're intelligent eccentrics who chose to throw off the shackles of society for a life of non-conformist eruditeness?
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normalcyispasse



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not so much people in theory who bother me, but people in practice. I don't MEAN to be a loner, but I just prefer things to be a bit quieter.

I live in a smaller town; I grew up in a smallish suburb of a plains state, and I've never really been comfortable living in cities. I don't drink (personal, not religious choices) so the bar scene is generally unappealing. I don't like drunkenness (former bouncer), and in general it's just easier for me to live simply.

I'm married and I spend a lot of time with my wife. It's a nice life. Before I moved to Korea and met her, I moved around America quite a bit -- always by myself, and it was just not a big thing. Still isn't. 왕따? Maybe, but it really feels like "loner" is too forceful a term. I prefer something like "casual."

I didn't realize how foreign white people had become to me until I visited America last winter. I was in my home country, but everyone around me seemed stranger to me than the Koreans do here. I think perhaps with the Koreans I know what to expect: I don't like it, but I know I am going to be treated like a waygook. In America, there's just that indifference to everyone. I don't feel close to white or American culture anymore; I find many trends slightly more distasteful, the sense of suburban entitlement more prevalent, and the politics too inflammatory (and the rhetoric too reactionary -- even for a self-described liberal).

Sometimes I get the sense that I should go out and meet some more of the foreigners in my city, but then inevitably there ends up being a mass e-mail about the latest drunk-fest on the beach or who's getting paid the most for their private lessons and I end up just living my own, rather comfortable, life.
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A post by normalcyispasse made me think about something. I'm pretty much a loner. I never could bring myself to hangout with the waygook crowds or even Koreans. I don't give a crap about Korean culture and don't care much more for whitey culture. I don't even work with other Koreans or white people...and I can't work with co-workers. Every job I have ever had for any length of time has been a job where I had no coworkers or not part of a team.....mostly just independent jobs. I think I remember always getting the lowest marks on "doesn't play well with others" on my elementary report cards. Anywho...anybody else out there have the same thing going on in Korea..or elsewhere?


I don't know, man, next time I walk by a bell tower I'll be looking up for the high powered rifle pointing in my general direction Laughing

Human personalities across the board tend to take the shape of a bell curve. Most people come together toward the middle... some are more on the fringes of the curve.

Look at it this way, pretty well all the great innovators in society have existed on the fringes... a sense of turmoil, doubt and alienation can spark one's creative juices.
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