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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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 Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
BMLS,
What is your point? That it is good? I think it is horrible anywhere. So if you are taking the line that it is particularly horrible in Islamic cultures, I disagree. |
No, I'm saying that it is particularly horrible where *real* guns are invloved, including Western regions. Plastic guns, water pistols, movies and computer games simply do not compare, regardless of artistic merit (or lack thereof). They are just a trivial symptom. A photoshopped gopher is not a threat to individual rights or civilization as we know it.
Too many people are giving Hollywood and the gaming industry ideas ... |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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No, I'm saying that it is particularly horrible where *real* guns are invloved, including Western regions. Plastic guns, water pistols, movies and computer games simply do not compare, regardless of artistic merit (or lack thereof). They are just a trivial symptom. A photoshopped gopher is not a threat to individual rights or civilization as we know it.
Too many people are giving Hollywood and the gaming industry ideas ... |
Then I completely agree with you, as stated above. Images are symptoms and an image in and of itself, is never to be understood for the real thing. I believe it is never the thing in and of itself that is the problem, (what) but rather the process and sequencing (how) in which a thing is enacted that is the problem. My disagreement with Gopher's gun is not about the image perse but rather what it represents. I know that may seem to be splitting hairs but it makes sense to me. Look at the context. Gopher glorifies the army and the noble warrior -- I only see a sad necessity in this, not any glory.
We would also do well to reflect on the enormous arms budget of the West and how this has allowed weapons to appear all over the world, and into the hands of those above. Weapons are a very high end industry which not many countries are capable of producing in vast quantities.
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