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buffygrrl1



Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: how much money should i make? Reply with quote

i'm getting job offers and they all seem to be exactly 2.0 or under. is that really low? I have a tesol!
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is low, and is a typical amount your average academy would offer someone who has never been to Korea before. If you shop around, you can get more. If you're using a recruiter, set the bar high. Ask for 2.4 and work down.

Consider public schools, more pay, more vacation, less worries.

In the end, you'll get what you settle for. Don't settle, and don't take split shifts, especially in Seoul.

Research your school by googling the name and read as much as you can.

Good luck.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you applying (geographically)? Public? Private? It's been my experience that Korean academies/schools don't really worry about TEFL/TESOL.

I would ask for roughly 2.1 if you've never been here before.
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darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really are Russian, you could make s*itloads more if you wanted Wink


neh just playing
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TiGrBaLm



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: Hubcap of Asia

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as you like, just make sure you buy a really good colour printer Wink
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask for 2.2
You should NOT, under any circumstances take less than 2.1
And in 2007 getting less than 2.0 is a JOKE.
2.0 would be something Id expect to see paid in 2001, not 2007. Not in Seoul anyway.
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buffygrrl1



Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkhorse_NZ wrote:
If you really are Russian, you could make s*itloads more if you wanted Wink


neh just playing


lol i am, but i'm way too americanized. Yeah this school offered me 1.9 or 2.0 and i was like huh? That sounds pretty low to me. Yes I'm using recruiters. Where else would you guys recommend to look for jobs in Seoul. Seems to me all the posts are from recruiters.
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darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm actually in Gyeonggi Do myself, so if you're dead set on going to Seoul I can't really help ya. but there's loads of people here that will.

but yeh, dont let the bastards offer you anything less than 2.1 with a certificate. I took 2.1 gladly with my certificate and no experience because people were having a hard time with my accent.
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buffygrrl1



Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i will def not take less than 2.1 now. I want to be in Seoul because its easier to meet people there. Honestly I don't really mind towns that are not super huge (seeing as how I live in San Francisco and really wouldn't mind a change), but I don't want to get stuck in the middle of nowhere.
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darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's a number of good sized satellite towns around Seoul, good if you can find a job in them. Bundang and Ilsan seem to be the most highly rated. You'd have to get well acquainted with the public transport system though. they've definitly got enough happening in them to hold your interest for a little while, but inevitably you'll end up in Seoul.
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
That is low, and is a typical amount your average academy would offer someone who has never been to Korea before. If you shop around, you can get more. If you're using a recruiter, set the bar high. Ask for 2.4 and work down.

Consider public schools, more pay, more vacation, less worries.

In the end, you'll get what you settle for. Don't settle, and don't take split shifts, especially in Seoul.

Research your school by googling the name and read as much as you can.

Good luck.


This really isn't an industry where you have a lot of room to negotiate initially in Korea. Obviously, don't settle for a position where you think you are getting hosed, but in retrospect don't put too much value on your certification or experience either. I looked at it this way. In Florida where I was a state certified teacher with an M.A the starting pay for an M.A holder was only a couple of thousand more than for a B.S holder in my certification area. You might want to look into positions at the SAT test prep type places if money is a big issue. I had offers from all ends of the spectrum before coming here. I settled for what I thought might be a good experience for me, even though it was definitely not nearly the highest paying. I was content enough to stay for another year at the same school with a raise.
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ryanbonner



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many recruiters will still insist that 1.9 is a standard wage, this is because, well, they are idiots. If the job was perfect, great hours, central location in Seoul, I'd take 2.0 in a heartbeat. Of course, there are very few perfect teaching jobs in Korea, so I agree that you should start at least at 2.3 and don't settle for less than 2.1
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jellobean



Joined: 14 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say don't settle for less than 2.2.... You might have to wait a bit longer, but it's worth it.... I may know a job opening in September near Cheongyangni that will probably pay that.... It's not the best job but its not horrible either (1:30-8:30pm). If you can get them to let you keep the apt the current teacher has in Itaewon it's pretty sweet (she has to kick in an extra $150/mo, but it's a big two bedroom place with a shared courtyard -- you might be able to bargain them down on how much you kick in too)... You can pm me if you might be interested....
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buffygrrl1



Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what i found amusing was one of my recruiters told me there are tons and tons of certified teachers in korea that have degrees in education therefore they can ask for more money and i cant.
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting salaryfor inexperienced teachers at my large franchise in Busan is now 2.2. They have been raising it 100,000 a year for the past two years.

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I want to be in Seoul because its easier to meet people there.


No problem meeting people in Pusan. Plus, you have the beaches!

Dont limit yourself to Seoul and good luck.
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