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New Concerns in Korea over Pediphiles
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: New Concerns in Korea over Pediphiles Reply with quote

Me and my co-FT's caught news from our director in a meeting that there is a new big concern going on via the media about male English teachers sexually assaulting school children as it is said to have happened once recently which led to turning in the teacher to the courts rightfully so. We were told not to hug the kids and only thouch them when it is necessary to restrain them from hurting themselves.
The problem I have is Korean parents just lost trust in us and are looking to stereotype male teachers since school is traditionally taught by women like in America which our director pointed out. This kind of stereotyping looks to be a by product of westernization of Korea.

Anyone else hear anything about a case of child sexual harassment occurring involving a foreign English teacher in Korea?

Since kids are also catching wind of national news of concern, is it possible they may say lies to go against a teacher? Is it possible a school that would rather get rid of you instead of paying you your severance pays, could just talk trash to the courts to out you? These sorts of things already happened in America a number times stemming around the politics of sexual harassment.

Like in America, this concern brings concern to all parties involved; the school, the teachers, the parents, the kids, and communities which leads to finger pointing and even using this as a weapon against schools, teachers, and parents in a number of ways. Many of us know how it works in American culture and would not teach there due to the social corruptions.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: New Concerns in Korea over Pediphiles Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
This kind of stereotyping looks to be a by product of westernization of Korea.


Shocked I'm pretty sure Koreans (as well as most of the world) were capable of stereotyping well before any western influences fell upon them. Shocked

I think it does suck though, as in most cases here, than one bad apple ruins the bunch.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't heard anything but isolated cases wouldn't surprise me.

If they want to catch sexual predators who have a thing for kids, just stake out an elementary schoolyard and and wait for the "Burberry men" to show up. And no, I'm not talking about chavs.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:

If they want to catch sexual predators who have a thing for kids, just stake out an elementary schoolyard and and wait for the "Burberry men" to show up. And no, I'm not talking about chavs.


Yeah, believe me, Korea had a good handle on the pedophile market before any sicko whities showed up. There's a reason my kids say they don't like the subyway cause of the creepy old guys.
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Benicio



Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More "all foreigners are bad" crap!

Koreans do absolutely nothing about Korean pedophiles and "burberry men"!

Check this out: http://www.brokeinkorea.proboards46.com/index.cgi?board=Look&action=display&thread=1177057755&page=1
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benicio wrote:

Check this out: http://www.brokeinkorea.proboards46.com/index.cgi?board=Look&action=display&thread=1177057755&page=1


The story behind those photos is they were banned by the police because they tarnish the man's reputation.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a good relationship established with your school and always get good support from them you should have nothing to worry about. If you don't, well, it's one more potential trick up their sleave.

I'm far, far less worried about such accusations over here. I do some volunteer work with kids, some of whom come from troubled backgrounds, that I would never, ever do back in Canada for liability reasons. I'd never help at a foster home in Canada for a variety of reasons - being falsely accused of something being one - but have few such concerns in Korea.

One guy in my school district was accused of teaching a student swear words, something that was later proven false. He was furious about it. I just told him look, in England she would have been accusing you of groping her, so count your blessings.
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Guri Guy



Joined: 07 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a sad situation. I am all for criminal background checks. If they are genuinely concerned about Foreign paedophiles entering this country to teach English, that should catch most of them. Just another xenophobic reaction from an irresponsible Korean media. Sad
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give high fives to my students all the time. Sometimes I'll pat them on the back or on the head to congratulate them if they did well.

Just keep to common sense. Don't do anything stupid like have kids sit on your lap.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked with a guy who did a lot of work with
organizations his daughters were in. One organization
had a three person rule. Never be alone with a child.
There should be at least two children old enough
to give a clear story should an accusation be made.
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When has an English teacher ever been caught doing anything pedophilic? I only know of one incident and it was a gyopo.

I've always felt that that's a little controversy bomb waiting to blow up. I mean, with all the thousands of English teachers, one day, one sick bastard is gonna do something (a kind of thousand monkeys on a typewriter theory of pedophilia), and I don't think Koreans will be as "forgiving" as Americans were with Kill 'Em All Cho.
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vox



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Location: Jeollabukdo

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: New Concerns in Korea over Pediphiles Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
Me and my co-FT's caught news from our director in a meeting that there is a new big concern going on via the media about male English teachers sexually assaulting school children as it is said to have happened once recently which led to turning in the teacher to the courts rightfully so. We were told not to hug the kids and only thouch them when it is necessary to restrain them from hurting themselves.
The problem I have is Korean parents just lost trust in us and are looking to stereotype male teachers since school is traditionally taught by women like in America which our director pointed out. This kind of stereotyping looks to be a by product of westernization of Korea.

Anyone else hear anything about a case of child sexual harassment occurring involving a foreign English teacher in Korea?

Since kids are also catching wind of national news of concern, is it possible they may say lies to go against a teacher? Is it possible a school that would rather get rid of you instead of paying you your severance pays, could just talk trash to the courts to out you? These sorts of things already happened in America a number times stemming around the politics of sexual harassment.

Like in America, this concern brings concern to all parties involved; the school, the teachers, the parents, the kids, and communities which leads to finger pointing and even using this as a weapon against schools, teachers, and parents in a number of ways. Many of us know how it works in American culture and would not teach there due to the social corruptions.


I wondered about that 11th month cop-out technique as well back when I was a hagwoner. But on the subject of sentiments against male teachers...

It seems to be a kind of delayed development. Sentiments against male teachers (for these very same fears no doubt) were very popular among most parents and professionals I knew in cities in Eastern Canada during the 80s and 90s. But nowadays, I know of several western schools (and at least one program) that actively promote qualified men as teachers via quotas and other ways of promoting diversity. I was quite surprised to learn about this recently. I happen to think a few social problems we have in the West could be prevented with positive male teachers in kindergarten, but that's another thread.

It will come back to Korea, but it will take a while. Koreans are very interested in social developments in the West as we see in various ways, but their info is usually a bit dated. And in this case your story makes me wonder if the issue of the faulty screening process here isn't being circumvented somehow. IMHO sharing Western sex offender lists in with the immigration and police departments here would probably prevent at least some of these incidents occuring, and the threat of such information crossing borders (acts of paedophilia here getting recorded in police registries back home) may be a deterrent.

But that would take some serious cooperation.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny,

You should mention at your hagwon meeting that you recently read in the news that 800 men raped a middle school student. Perhaps you should tell your boss to seriously reconsider hiring Korean men since, obviously, they are all pedophiles.
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Morton



Joined: 06 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey
Things like this do pose a problem but just act smart.
Don't hug kids. The most i do is pat them on the back.
If you are in a classroom alone with a kid leave the door wide open.

Don't do anything that could be misinterpritated. I've heard some teachers do some pretty stupid things. Remember you're not the students friend. You're their teacher.

I'm just glad my school did a police check on me. It takes off the pressure of these situations.
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Doogie



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me pretty sad to read this. My little kids come up and hug me all the time.....just because I'm really close to them. I guess if it has happened before, then they do need to keep their eyes open.
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