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Wasteland in Seoul
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Wasteland in Seoul Reply with quote

I got a new scooter recently so I took it out for a ride last weekend.

I was driving around Sindaebang area, when something caught my eye up a side road. I went to investigate and found a large section of demolished buildings and some more recently abandoned.

Behind that fence that snakes up from the left is a small road that connects the main street to the still inhabited apartments further up.



This church was totally surrounded with rubble.



Encroaching high-rises.



An apple to whoever has the best translation for this.



Formerly a house.


From the top of the area looking back down. You can see how obviously the church has been spared.


Some abandoned homes I decided to explore.


Now uninhabitable. There was broken stone and glass everywhere. Someone wanted to make sure the floor would never be a proper floor again.



A less safe way up.


The kitchen sink.


Everything behind the garage doors has been destroyed.


When I left the danger area, a worker approached me and asked "Why?" I told him in Korean I was a photographer. He didn't know any more questions and I didn't know any more answers.

I went back up the hill to return to where I left my scooter, and all these kids were playing. I tried to find a way out where I wouldn't pass the destruction, but it was a dead end. I suspect these kids' homes will be destroyed next.


If you need to see even more pictures of this area, the full gallery is here:
http://www.daehanmindecline.com/digital/20070616.html
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been demolished because the entire lot is up for redevelopment. This happens quite a bit. There is a similar area right around Hapjeoung St., too.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know all about it. This isn't the first site I've visited.

One of my friends goes by this one every day and says it hasn't changed in about half a year. I wonder why they destroy the homes and chase the residents away and then don't do anything for months.
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really thought Korea was sparkling too Crying or Very sad
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and the grafitti loosely reads, 'F*cK oFF A$$hole'.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Oh, and the grafitti loosely reads, 'F*cK oFF A$$hole'.


Correct, but 철거 translates to "removal" or I think "destroyer."
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. I just provide loose translations on the fly. It's all about the feeling Very Happy
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentrification...happens everywhere. There are tons of clusterF***** neighborhoods all over Seoul that could use a good urban planning facelift. Yes, it sucks for the families who have probably been squatting there for 50 years, but it's good for the overall development of the city.

Of course, not doing anything once the place is leveled does kind of suck. Makes you wonder if they processed all the paperwork correctly. I can imagine some dude contacting these families a few months later saying, "Oh, sorry. We actually weren't allowed to/supposed to do that."
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HapKi



Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the last 4 characters are Kae Sae Ki Nom
Literally, baby dog
Figuratively, azz hole, fooker... take your pick
So roughly- "Fook you, evictors, or (de) construction workers."
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those families either 1) sold their property for a hefty sum or 2) have an option to take one of the new apartments (plus, in some cases, depending on the property value, a buy out on top of that). The developers/government pay for the moves, and in some cases, a stipend for the interum housing. Usually benefits the land owners.

Renters on that property also get an option to take a new place, and get moved for free. Pain in the butt? Yup, but, then again, better than the treatment given to people in redeveloped neighborhoods in the States IMHO.
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maximreality



Joined: 24 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
Gentrification...happens everywhere. There are tons of clusterF***** neighborhoods all over Seoul that could use a good urban planning facelift. Yes, it sucks for the families who have probably been squatting there for 50 years, but it's good for the overall development of the city.

Of course, not doing anything once the place is leveled does kind of suck. Makes you wonder if they processed all the paperwork correctly. I can imagine some dude contacting these families a few months later saying, "Oh, sorry. We actually weren't allowed to/supposed to do that."

I don't think it sucks for the families really. Value of the land must have skyrocketed since they bought their houses, so unless they've been renting the place, they are definitely well compensated for the loss. This is exactly the way many Koreans got rich.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
Gentrification...happens everywhere. There are tons of clusterF***** neighborhoods all over Seoul that could use a good urban planning facelift. Yes, it sucks for the families who have probably been squatting there for 50 years, but it's good for the overall development of the city.

Of course, not doing anything once the place is leveled does kind of suck. Makes you wonder if they processed all the paperwork correctly. I can imagine some dude contacting these families a few months later saying, "Oh, sorry. We actually weren't allowed to/supposed to do that."


It makes me wonder how someone can squat for 50 years. If you've built three-storey-tall apartment buildings, I'd consider it your property.

Gentrification has its advantages and this city would suck if it was still all those buildings, but it takes out the heart of the city. It's especially a problem in Dongdaemoon where they bulldoze the cool areas to put in yuppie monuments.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Gentrification has its advantages and this city would suck if it was still all those buildings, but it takes out the heart of the city. It's especially a problem in Dongdaemoon where they bulldoze the cool areas to put in yuppie monuments.


It's sad that they're replacing the old neighborhoods with bigger and ungodlier neighborhoods of grey high-rises. How long until that's all that is left of Seoul? Uhhh...
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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

demolition son of (female dog) (pr*ck)

There was a neighbourhood nearby like this when I lived in Sangdo Dong. Used to go mountain biking there and had no choice but to cycle (very politely however) through people's yards, as some houses were built right across the public pathways.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bosintang wrote:

It's sad that they're replacing the old neighborhoods with bigger and ungodlier neighborhoods of grey high-rises. How long until that's all that is left of Seoul? Uhhh...


The "old" naighbourhoods are roach-infested tacky builings from the 50's. hardly of historic interest.

Maybe if they were demolishing gyongbukgung palace i'd see your point.
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