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peemil
Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa
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| Same thing as anywhere else in the world... Idiots. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi itaewonguy,
"you...it???" No! "YEAH.....not!" NOT! No. Look, every country has problems but..hell no!
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Everything about you is wrong, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
[For the record, I'm in my third year, have a uni job with 4 months holiday a year, I save heaps, have a good social life, and intend to be here for a long time. I will continue to point out racism and unsatisfactory aspets of this culture too. I've no doubt that that, my fuzzy friend, is too much of a contradiction for your little black and white straight-lined brain.
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Nope, it's not a contradiction. I can see quite clearly where you are coming from. It's a common problem on this board. People who are unemployable in their home countries come here to work, but resent the fact that they can't do what they do here in their own home countries. Hence they bash Korea. |
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
[For the record, I'm in my third year, have a uni job with 4 months holiday a year, I save heaps, have a good social life, and intend to be here for a long time. I will continue to point out racism and unsatisfactory aspets of this culture too. I've no doubt that that, my fuzzy friend, is too much of a contradiction for your little black and white straight-lined brain.
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Nope, it's not a contradiction. I can see quite clearly where you are coming from. It's a common problem on this board. People who are unemployable in their home countries come here to work, but resent the fact that they can't do what they do here in their own home countries. Hence they bash Korea. |
Non-sequitur |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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35. The expat community as a whole
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AS much as I believe we are singing from the same hymn book Indytrucks, I feel the need to pull you on the above, as a member of that expat community.
A great many of the members of the community that I have met, in my health club, events, clubs have been interesting and charming and very level headed about life in Korea. An example was at the Octoberfest event recently at the Hilton; I met some really interesting and likeable people, all very positive about their lives in Korea. I feel you are possibly judging the entire community on a few posts here at Dave's, which I have not found to be a representative sample of the community as a whole; are you in fact, as many of the whiners do, judging the entire community on the actions (or posts) of a few?
It all depends where you place yourself, and who you choose to interact with, and if you place yourself outside the community that you are part of, then it is difficult to see it for what it truly is, and find the peope within it that are in fact, as open minded, free thinking and ready for new cultural experiences as you seem to be. |
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Austin
Joined: 23 May 2003
Location: In the kitchen
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:37 pm Post subject: Case and point... |
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Exactly!
It has long been asserted that this site is not an accurate representation of the "esl community" and the positive, yet common, experiences that so many have in Korea.
I hope that the many newcomers that visit this site realize this fact and understand that this forum does not attract a majority of those that are currently "successfully" experiencing Korea, as it goes against the nature of the "beast" (most are too busy living it to be bothered with posting here). However, the majority that are struggling, flock here and pollute this site with pointless negativity.
The challenge rests with being able to filter out the garbage to get what useful information can be obtained from this site. |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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35. The expat community as a whole
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AS much as I believe we are singing from the same hymn book Indytrucks, I feel the need to pull you on the above, as a member of that expat community.
A great many of the members of the community that I have met, in my health club, events, clubs have been interesting and charming and very level headed about life in Korea. An example was at the Octoberfest event recently at the Hilton; I met some really interesting and likeable people, all very positive about their lives in Korea. I feel you are possibly judging the entire community on a few posts here at Dave's, which I have not found to be a representative sample of the community as a whole; are you in fact, as many of the whiners do, judging the entire community on the actions (or posts) of a few?
It all depends where you place yourself, and who you choose to interact with, and if you place yourself outside the community that you are part of, then it is difficult to see it for what it truly is, and find the peope within it that are in fact, as open minded, free thinking and ready for new cultural experiences as you seem to be. |
Butterfly,
It would be stupid and naive of me to judge the temperment of the expat community by the rubbish that's posted here. I've lived here long enough (too long!) to realize that. My thoughts concerning the expat community exist outside the realm of Dave's ESL b i t c h sessions.
Having said that, I admit such a sweeping generalization of the expat community may have been a bit rash, but there is a certain element of truth to it.
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| It all depends where you place yourself, and who you choose to interact with, and if you place yourself outside the community that you are part of, then it is difficult to see it for what it truly is, and find the peope within it that are in fact, as open minded, free thinking and ready for new cultural experiences as you seem to be |
I consider myself lucky. I surround myself with likeminded people who enjoy the same things I do. I do not surround myself with whinging imbeciles, immature drunkards and irresponsible slackers. I steer clear of "expat" binge drinking areas (Itaewon, Hongdae), opting instead for the mountains, islands and National parks, but by no means do I shun "expat" areas as a rule. I take my job seriously (and it's a good one), and at work I am taken seriously. I am happy, content and satisfied. The fact remains that many people here are unsatisfied and frustrated with their jobs/place in life/adapting to a new culture, and this frustration translates into constant moaning, an escape to the bottom of a bottle, shirked responsibilties and, strangely, an inflated sense of self importance. This behaviour is far too common, and can be witnessed ANYWHERE.
Having said that, there is a minority (yes MINORITY) of foreigners here who are sound, levelheaded, openminded AND objectively criticical of this place without resorting to vitrolic axe-grinding. They do exist, and they are a joy to meet. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Having said that, there is a minority (yes MINORITY) of foreigners here who are sound, levelheaded, openminded AND objectively criticical of this place without resorting to vitrolic axe-grinding. They do exist, and they are a joy to meet. |
Well this is where we differ trucks, I believe this is an apt descrpition of the majority of peope here working in this republic. Certainly the ones I meet. Again, its where you place yourself. |
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HardyandTiny
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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80. Ninety percent of the restaurants have a television turned on. Why?
81. Visiting a Korean home and the television is left on, the whole time! Even during the meal! And no one's watching it!
82. Music blaring from three different shops all within 50 feet of each other. Who goes into these places?
84. A grown woman talking like a little girl while an older male listens and grunts.
85. There's no SARS in Korea because of a chemical in gimchee. (or is it freaking Kimchee!)
I can go on all day with this..... |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Nope, it's not a contradiction. I can see quite clearly where you are coming from. It's a common problem on this board. People who are unemployable in their home countries come here to work, but resent the fact that they can't do what they do here in their own home countries. Hence they bash Korea. |
You're jaded dude, not my problem. And ( as if this needs pointing out ) you don't know jack about me. Maybe you're talking about yourself when you talk about unemployable people, so sorry for you, not. Back home I was high-school English teacher before I came, so suck on it idiot. I take my job seriously too, and am taken seriously too, and it's a good job too. But you seem hell bent on making yourslelf out to be special. Congratulations, you are. A very special kind of dweeb.
Just a question to the board, don't you find most people with superiority complexes usually have something to hide and usually lack social skills? |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:18 am Post subject: Re: What makes you the angriest? |
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Hi itaewonguy,
"you...it???" No! "YEAH.....not!" NOT! No. Look, every country has problems but..hell no!
Have a good one! |
WHATEVER!!!! keep choking on that crack PIPE! psychedelic!! 
whats your problem? |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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I hate seeing those 40/50 yr old ajjoshis (usually drunk) shouting down their wives,or women workforce, like they were nothing. I've had conversations with both. Ajoshi is always annoying, predictable, boring, small mined or p**ssed off about something. Downtrodden ajumma is usually, warm, hospitable, friendly, open minded and nice.
How do they put up with a lifetime of being married to a pig? |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| It starts early. I have seen plenty of times, at night, the girl being dragged somewhere against her will, by the hair no less, shreiling with protest all the way. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Nope, it's not a contradiction. I can see quite clearly where you are coming from. It's a common problem on this board. People who are unemployable in their home countries come here to work, but resent the fact that they can't do what they do here in their own home countries. Hence they bash Korea.[/quote]
And here, all this time, I thought hagwans were set up as a make work project for all those unemployed Canadians ... like myself. 
I believe in equal opportunity, so I bash everybody, Canada, Korea, BSA, whatever.
cheers |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| I went to songdo seaside park in incheon today. A wretched security guard chased me away from the area where they're developing the place, bulldozers going at it. I was sitting quietly with my telescope watching some birds out to sea. But uniformed ajosshi had to throw his weight around and start shouting. I started shouting back, but what was the use? Every pretty, wildlife rich spot in Korea is being trashed by noisy developers, and fenced off into no- go areas. Even the fishermen were herded away. Korea will only be satisfied when they've concreted everything into dull, featureless oblivion. |
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