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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan The Chainsawman wrote:





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kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Why don't women wear watches?

Cause there's a clock on the stove.

Ha ha ha ha.


Laughing Jinju, is that you?! Take off that Chinese sock!
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Misogyny on Dave's Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
Bramble wrote:
cbclark4 wrote:
Bramble wrote:
Am I the only one who senses it?


Yes I am saddened at locking of the Cleavage thread too!


I think it was the final post in that thread that came across as sad, rather than the decision itself.


People say all kinds of things on the internet...


I didn't look at the cleavage thread until after Poktanju locked it, and in my statement above I was referring to Poktanju's explanation of that decision. That's what finally set me off and inspired this thread (although misogyny has been a problem around here for a very long time).

I just couldn't believe the mods were treating Freaka's "offence" as being just as serious as Jinju's conduct - or maybe even more serious? The guy threatens a harassment campaign against her, and she's supposed to keep that to herself out of concern for the poor little harasser's privacy?! I don't see one single thing wrong with what Freaka did, and I feel that she had every right to ask for help from the mods at the same time. It's really astonishing that the mods apparently don't see it that way. Assuming they read through the thread, and saw that the "incitement" by Freaka was a reaction to Jinju's over-the-top sexist attitudes, I can only conclude that the mods agree with Jinju and really think a full-on harassment war was a reasonable response. Confused Confused Confused
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did I wage a harassment campaign?
No.
Did freaka insult and then break rules?
yes

So there you have it. I broke no rules, I simply said I may do something. She DID break rules.

P.S. none of that is misogynistic. If a man insulted my wife Id go postal on him too. In this case it was a woman who couldnt handle hearing the brutal truth on a thread in the job forum and still feels anger because I shattered her fantasy of making 5 million a month right off the plane.
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Freaka



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
Did I wage a harassment campaign?
No.
Did freaka insult and then break rules?
yes

So there you have it. I broke no rules, I simply said I may do something. She DID break rules.

P.S. none of that is misogynistic. If a man insulted my wife Id go postal on him too. In this case it was a woman who couldnt handle hearing the brutal truth on a thread in the job forum and still feels anger because I shattered her fantasy of making 5 million a month right off the plane.


You didn't break any rules? Do you think anyone is dumb enough to believe you? Shall I post your hateful PM again for everyone to see? Apparently, you have a habit of sending hateful PMs to the women who disagree with you. Why am I not surprised?

8. Members have every right to enjoy a safe and cordial environment for discussion. It is not acceptable for Dave's ESL Cafe users to harrass, stalk or intimidate any other Dave's ESL Cafe members, on or off the board, privately or publicly. Members are also not to use Dave's ESL Cafe's forums or private messaging system as a means to arrange fights or threaten violence. Users found to be doing any of the above will face immediate sanctions.

As for my "fantasy," I hate to break it to you, but you didn't shatter anything. Truth be told, I'll be making more than 5 million right off the plane. Cool I'm sorry your life sucks, but it's not my fault. I don't even know you. I'm just some poster on a message board who will be making more money than you. You're the one that can't handle reality, not me. Rolling Eyes
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Freaka



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Misogyny on Dave's Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
Adventurer wrote:
Bramble wrote:
cbclark4 wrote:
Bramble wrote:
Am I the only one who senses it?


Yes I am saddened at locking of the Cleavage thread too!


I think it was the final post in that thread that came across as sad, rather than the decision itself.


People say all kinds of things on the internet...


I didn't look at the cleavage thread until after Poktanju locked it, and in my statement above I was referring to Poktanju's explanation of that decision. That's what finally set me off and inspired this thread (although misogyny has been a problem around here for a very long time).

I just couldn't believe the mods were treating Freaka's "offence" as being just as serious as Jinju's conduct - or maybe even more serious? The guy threatens a harassment campaign against her, and she's supposed to keep that to herself out of concern for the poor little harasser's privacy?! I don't see one single thing wrong with what Freaka did, and I feel that she had every right to ask for help from the mods at the same time. It's really astonishing that the mods apparently don't see it that way. Assuming they read through the thread, and saw that the "incitement" by Freaka was a reaction to Jinju's over-the-top sexist attitudes, I can only conclude that the mods agree with Jinju and really think a full-on harassment war was a reasonable response. Confused Confused Confused


Actually...I didn't care about Jinju's sexist remarks as much as I had an issue with his personal attacks on me. Yes, his statements about women in the cleavage thread were sexist and insulting, but those were his opinions and even though I disagree with them, he's allowed his opinions.

My problem with Jinju is that he always makes it personal. I've said this before - Jinju is one of those men that resorts to personal attacks when he finds himself on the losing end of an arguement (which is often). He can't argue his point without getting personal. So I retaliated and called his wife a blow-up doll Cool...which prompted his PM that threatened to make my life a living hell on these message boards. Only people who feel powerless resort to the tactics that Jinju uses. But I think most of us (even newbs like me) can see right through him. He's rather pathetic, if you ask me.
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Misogyny on Dave's Reply with quote

Freaka wrote:
So I retaliated and called his wife a blow-up doll Cool.


Shocked
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Misogyny on Dave's Reply with quote

merkurix wrote:
Freaka wrote:
So I retaliated and called his wife a blow-up doll Cool.


Shocked


There you go, thats what Freaka is, a vile little troll with serious problems. Shes also an expert on Korea, she knows a hairdresser from Daegu, afterall.

Making more than 5 million, I know how she will do that LOL
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kimchi_pizza



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Misogyny on Dave's Reply with quote

merkurix wrote:
Freaka wrote:
So I retaliated and called his wife a blow-up doll Cool.


Shocked


Make that a double. Shocked Shocked

Attack a fella, fine. But a man's wife (or woman's husband!) is sacred and a civilian in this mob-mysoginist war and not to be harmed or humiliated.

Just for the record, Jinju and Freaka would make a good UFC match....hmmm.....
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please. No one here knows Jinju's wife. Freaka was obviously taking a shot at him, and it was well-deserved.
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Freaka



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Misogyny on Dave's Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
merkurix wrote:
Freaka wrote:
So I retaliated and called his wife a blow-up doll Cool.


Shocked


There you go, thats what Freaka is, a vile little troll with serious problems. Shes also an expert on Korea, she knows a hairdresser from Daegu, afterall.

Making more than 5 million, I know how she will do that LOL


C'mon Jinju...admit it...your wife is a blow-up doll. No woman in her right mind would put up with you. Does your doll talk to you as well? Does your doll give you a foot massage when you complain to her about how you can't win an argument on Dave's ESL Cafe without resorting to cheap, personal attacks? Cool


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Freaka



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Misogyny on Dave's Reply with quote

kimchi_pizza wrote:
Just for the record, Jinju and Freaka would make a good UFC match....hmmm.....


Brrrrrrrrring it on! Cool
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen guys get very very upset when their wives are mentioned, and I recognize that it's "off-limits" but I can't say I can really relate. If someone had never met my significant other, their insults would be pretty meaningless and I wouldn't even dignify them with a reply.

Anyway, I don't think anyone has the moral high ground in that dust-up.
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Freaka



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
Please. No one here knows Jinju's wife. Freaka was obviously taking a shot at him, and it was well-deserved.


I seriously doubt that Jinju has a wife. Someone should let Jinju know that a blow-up doll with two arms and two legs does not equal a wife.

According to Jinju, I'll be making my living in Korea as a hooker. Somehow I don't think that the mods will care about his remark, so I'm fending for myself. Yet another classy remark from our beloved board misogynist, Jinju. Cool
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Freaka



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
I've seen guys get very very upset when their wives are mentioned, and I recognize that it's "off-limits" but I can't say I can really relate. If someone had never met my significant other, their insults would be pretty meaningless and I wouldn't even dignify them with a reply.

Anyway, I don't think anyone has the moral high ground in that dust-up.


If Jinju can insinuate that I'll be making my living as a hooker and get away with it, then calling his wife a blow-up doll is not "off-limits."

Furthermore, there is a higher likelihood that Jinju's wife is a blow-up doll than the likelihood that I'll be making my money as a hooker in Korea. Cool
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