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BIG VISA PROBLEM

 
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Pizzathehut



Joined: 20 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: BIG VISA PROBLEM Reply with quote

If anyone can give me some solid information on this, please respond.

Here is the problem: My boss extended my e2 visa for 2 months. My visa was multiple entry, so naturally I thought my extended visa was too. (It wasn't) So, I left the country for a short vacation and when I returned, immigration took my ARC. Thus, my visa was cancelled....(to my understanding).

Here is what my boss told me: He took my original diploma and sealed transcripts to immigration and applied for a new one-year visa. (so he said). He told me that everything is OK and that I do not have to leave the country for a visa run. He also promised to give me a Release letter in two months so I can apply for another visa with a new employer.

What I am worried about: 1. Did he really apply for the visa and 2. Would it really be valid if I did not leave the country to get a new stamp in the passport and 3. Would the release letter be adequate for both the new employer and immigration, especially since, supposedly, I just applied for a one-year e2.

Supposedly immigration is aware of my situation and my boss if following their recommendations.

So, that is all I know, which is only what I've been told..Still, something does not seem quite right. What should I do? I am afraid I am trapped into staying here until my two months are up. Then what? Will I not be able to work in Korea again....who knows.....
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gosia



Joined: 10 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The same thing happened to me last year. I assumed that the multiple entry status exteneded along with my visa, but it did not. When I came back to Korea after my vacation, they took my ARC card and gave me a 30 visitor visa. My hogwan reapplied for a new visa for me, but I did have to go to Japan for two days to get that. If you are working in a public school, then you won't have to leave-as that is considered a gov't job. If you are working for a hogwon, you have to go on a visa run....
Hope that helps
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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"so naturally I thought my extended visa was too."

"I thought my _______ "?

To extend, he needs your passport. You should have gone to Immigration either alone(with proper documents or with him. He cannot do it alone or without your permission/passport. Did you give him your passport?

Why would he need sealed transcripts to extend? You need to go to Immigration ASAP and ask them what your situation is.

Why would he have extended it for 1 year when he only needs you for 2 months. You shouldn't trust him! Ask him for the letter of release now, have him post date it and stamp it. Make sure it is what you need. Learn what the title of the document really is/means.

About re-entry..."so naturally I thought" Stop doing that! If you are American it is automatically. If you are from Canada you need to purchase re-entries through Immigration.

You don't have to go on a visa run if your same employer wants to extend up to one year. After two years with any same employer you do have to make a visa run.
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Pizzathehut



Joined: 20 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Extension Reply with quote

When my boss extended my visa for 2 months, he took my ARC card and Passport to immigration, that's all. Immigration stamped a new date on the back of the ARC card. That is all they did.

After I left the country and lost that visa, my boss asked me for my diploma and transcripts so he could apply for another visa. Immigration told him that they would not do a new visa for less than one year. So he had to apply for a one-year visa.

I feel a bit better now, thanks to your information. If I don't have to leave the country for a visa run when the same company extends my visa for one year, then I can believe what he is telling me.

In that case I should be fine. I think I can trust him to sign a release letter since I helped him out by staying the extra two months, even though I did cause him a pain in the a-- with this visa mishap.
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icicle



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Extension Reply with quote

Pizzathehut wrote:
When my boss extended my visa for 2 months, he took my ARC card and Passport to immigration, that's all. Immigration stamped a new date on the back of the ARC card. That is all they did.

After I left the country and lost that visa, my boss asked me for my diploma and transcripts so he could apply for another visa. Immigration told him that they would not do a new visa for less than one year. So he had to apply for a one-year visa.

I feel a bit better now, thanks to your information. If I don't have to leave the country for a visa run when the same company extends my visa for one year, then I can believe what he is telling me.

In that case I should be fine. I think I can trust him to sign a release letter since I helped him out by staying the extra two months, even though I did cause him a pain in the a-- with this visa mishap.


The bit in this I don't get is why he would need to apply for a totally new 1 year visa - when the previous visa was "lost". I assume that means that you lost and had to replace your passport ... I would expect them to do a replacement visa for the remainder of the period left on the original visa and not to need to apply for a totally new one to run for another 12 months ... (I thought that was what was meant when you said they had said they would not do a "new" visa for under 12 months - you didn't even need a new visa)

I would seriously suggest that you do check with immigration what your current status is in their eyes ... or at least be aware that you may find that you are tied to your "employer" for 12 months rather than the 2 months you think ... It is better to be safe than sorry ...

Icicle
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait, so if you want to get out of your contract, all you have to do is go to Japan for the weekend on a single entry? Bam, visa/contract gone?

Doesn't sound right to me.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: BIG VISA PROBLEM Reply with quote

Pizzathehut wrote:
If anyone can give me some solid information on this, please respond.

Here is the problem: My boss extended my e2 visa for 2 months. My visa was multiple entry, so naturally I thought my extended visa was too. (It wasn't) So, I left the country for a short vacation and when I returned, immigration took my ARC. Thus, my visa was cancelled....(to my understanding).

Here is what my boss told me: He took my original diploma and sealed transcripts to immigration and applied for a new one-year visa. (so he said). He told me that everything is OK and that I do not have to leave the country for a visa run. He also promised to give me a Release letter in two months so I can apply for another visa with a new employer.

What I am worried about: 1. Did he really apply for the visa and 2. Would it really be valid if I did not leave the country to get a new stamp in the passport and 3. Would the release letter be adequate for both the new employer and immigration, especially since, supposedly, I just applied for a one-year e2.

Supposedly immigration is aware of my situation and my boss if following their recommendations.

So, that is all I know, which is only what I've been told..Still, something does not seem quite right. What should I do? I am afraid I am trapped into staying here until my two months are up. Then what? Will I not be able to work in Korea again....who knows.....


Your BOSS is a liar and you are about to get Fooked.

How long is your tourist stamp? He has you working illegally on it.

I assume it is 90 days (hence why he will release you in 2 months.) If he doesn't, you have to leave the country and he doesn't want to pay for the visa run either way.

Take a morning and take a trip down to immigration and sort it out yourself before / or you may find yourself in an immigration detention center trying to sort it all out later.
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Pizzathehut



Joined: 20 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Losing your visa Reply with quote

Yes, when you leave on a single entry visa, immigration revokes it once you reenter. That is what I meant by losing the visa.
Once again, leaving Korea while on a single entry visa renders it null and void upon reentry. Therefore I "lost" my visa. It is illegal to work in Korea on a tourist visa. I was issued a 30 day tourist visa.
My boss still wants me to finish working the extra two months that we previously agreed that I would work. (getting my visa extended for those extra two months is what started this whole problem...that is after I subsequently had it revoked upon my reentry to Korea).

If the previous posters are correct in that I do not have to leave the country for a visa run when I am resigning with my current employer...then I should be OK. My boss would not have any money worries, so I believe that he would have actually applied for the visa.

If anyone else knows any information, I would welcome it.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject: Re: Losing your visa Reply with quote

Pizzathehut wrote:
Yes, when you leave on a single entry visa, immigration revokes it once you reenter. That is what I meant by losing the visa.
Once again, leaving Korea while on a single entry visa renders it null and void upon reentry. Therefore I "lost" my visa. It is illegal to work in Korea on a tourist visa. I was issued a 30 day tourist visa.
My boss still wants me to finish working the extra two months that we previously agreed that I would work. (getting my visa extended for those extra two months is what started this whole problem...that is after I subsequently had it revoked upon my reentry to Korea).

If the previous posters are correct in that I do not have to leave the country for a visa run when I am resigning with my current employer...then I should be OK. My boss would not have any money worries, so I believe that he would have actually applied for the visa.

If anyone else knows any information, I would welcome it.


Your boss did not, could not have LEGALLY changed your visa status from tourist (visa waiver) to working E2. It is possible that a gift changed hands but I wouldn't bet your safety on it.

If he did in fact manage it you would be able to apply for an ARC tomorrow.

I would be willing to bet LARGE MONEY that you cannot.

NOW to clarify.... You do not have to leave for a visa run when you are ON A WORKING VISA and simply extending your visa.

In your case, you are NOT on an E2 work visa, you are on a tourist visa waiver stamp.

You are NOT legal to teach and if you stay longer than your 30 days you will be in an illegal tourist overstay position as well.

If your boss did what he claimed he was able to do (and I seriously doubt it) you can apply for and get your new ARC. If he didn't you will know and be able to do something about it.

GET YOUR AZZ down to immigration ASAP BEFORE you get banged and stuck in a detention cell, fined and deported.

You have everything to lose and NOTHING to gain by waiting.
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pdxsteve



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: BIG VISA PROBLEM Reply with quote

Pizzathehut wrote:
If anyone can give me some solid information on this, please respond.

Here is the problem: My boss extended my e2 visa for 2 months. My visa was multiple entry, so naturally I thought my extended visa was too. (It wasn't) So, I left the country for a short vacation and when I returned, immigration took my ARC. Thus, my visa was cancelled....(to my understanding).

Here is what my boss told me: He took my original diploma and sealed transcripts to immigration and applied for a new one-year visa. (so he said). He told me that everything is OK and that I do not have to leave the country for a visa run. He also promised to give me a Release letter in two months so I can apply for another visa with a new employer.

What I am worried about: 1. Did he really apply for the visa and 2. Would it really be valid if I did not leave the country to get a new stamp in the passport and 3. Would the release letter be adequate for both the new employer and immigration, especially since, supposedly, I just applied for a one-year e2.

Supposedly immigration is aware of my situation and my boss if following their recommendations.

So, that is all I know, which is only what I've been told..Still, something does not seem quite right. What should I do? I am afraid I am trapped into staying here until my two months are up. Then what? Will I not be able to work in Korea again....who knows.....


Since your employer claims to have applied for a new E-2 visa for you, you should kindly ask him when it will be placed into your passport. Which cannot be done from inside Korea. Which means, a visa run would be required. Which means, he's lying to you. Follow T's great advice and get yourself down to immigration ASAP, and don't teach another class until you're legal.
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insam



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Extension Reply with quote

Pizzathehut wrote:
I think I can trust him to sign a release letter since I helped him out by staying the extra two months, even though I did cause him a pain in the a-- with this visa mishap.


Pizzathehut, I'm so glad to see you acknowledge this. Most people on this forum seem to think that going back and forth to immigration is the kind of thing hagwon owners love to do. Good luck with everything.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Extension Reply with quote

insam wrote:
Pizzathehut wrote:
I think I can trust him to sign a release letter since I helped him out by staying the extra two months, even though I did cause him a pain in the a-- with this visa mishap.


Pizzathehut, I'm so glad to see you acknowledge this. Most people on this forum seem to think that going back and forth to immigration is the kind of thing hagwon owners love to do. Good luck with everything.


Trust? Rolling Eyes
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kigolo1881



Joined: 30 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 2 month extension would have required: YOU going to immi with your passport, ARC and an amendment to your contract, a filled out form with the box checked that said "Extension of Sojourn" and 30K Won stamps.

Your ARC would have and a new expiry date on the back within a few mins of waiting at immi.

The visa, including the RE-ENTRY would still be only valid for the original term indicated on the Visa sticker, hence you weren't allowed back into the country after the visa expired, but given a tourist status.


Your boss is a genius a spin doctor to get you to work 2 extra months for free (maybe) and then having to leave the country with little fear for re-course from you.
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG...nothing surprises me anymore Shocked
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