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xenok
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: |
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one of the biggest reason why i don't think the iPhone will be that big in this part of the world (most of Asia to be specific) is the lack of a traditional keypad? why is that important? because more than anything else, text messaging is critical in countries like Korea, Japan, S'pore and other parts of Asia. will the iPhone does have a touchscreen pad, it's not as convenient as a traditional keypad for text msging and that should hurt them quite a bit over in this part of the world.
in the US, i wonder if the wireless internet infrastructure is developed enough to really warrant having all that features. when i used a first gen Sidekick in the States, the features and software was nice but the connection was crap, which was a huge turn-off. |
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demaratus
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Location: Searching for a heart of gold, and I'm gettin' old
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Apple just released a new video about the iphone at www.apple.com it goes over the features and interface of the phone. It looks beautiful like all apple designed products. The battery life at 7-8 hours refers to Music and Video playback not telephone talk time. The battery in this phone is well better than the industry standard for both mp3 players and telephones. There is a chart about his onthe apple site and cnet has looked at this as well. While the phone appears to be expensive it should be an awesome device. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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I love the hype surrounding the iPhone when people haven't even tried it yet. Oh if you guys noticed in the video, the time is always 9:42AM. I wonder why?
Anyway the concept of mobile phones with PDA features is nothing new, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone for more info. It started way back with an IBM concept, popularised by Nokia with its innovative Nokia 9000 Communicator (a brick of a phone if anyone could remember it) way back in 2000-2001. However, it was in 2002 when the first real innovative phone was created :
Looks familiar?
I remember trying to buy this for $600 back in China (was called Dopod) but decided to wait out on version II since it was the first of its kind. Since then the company (O2) has pretty much become the pioneers of smartphones :
Now what is it that these phones have that the yet to be release iPhone doesn't have?
- They support more networks (Quad and GSM Tri-band & UMTS single band)
- The later models support a QWERTY keyboard, strange since they started out using a touch screen interface. Regardless, they have both keyboards and touch screen applications to support messaging and notetaking.
- Note taking. Anyone who has tried to use their fingers to write or draw on miniture screens will know that it doesn't work as well as a touch pen. Include voice recognition and management, you could dictate messages to the phone without ever having to press any keys.
- 4-6 hours talk time and 200 hours standby. Considering the extensive features available on these smartphones, that's pretty amazing. Think about this, you don't need to carry an mp3 or pmp around with you if you could only have one device.
- Uses Microsoft Windows Mobile 5.0 of which users can upgrade to version 6 for free. The OS has been in development for a long time now, I don't know any PIM that's comparable to Microsoft outlook/Calendar/multimedia applications on these smartphones. There are also plenty of 3rd party software out there (games anyone?).
- In addition, your files won't be tied down by some prioprietory software like iTunes. you can hook up these smartphones to any computer just like an mp3 player. Equally amazing is the fact that this can be done via wireless.
- Supports GPRS, BLUETOOTH, Infrared and WIFI 802.11b/g. Use GPRS as a navigator to find your way around town, or use a bluetooth headset and remote or even use the phone for internet access at any coffee shop supporting wireless (update stocks, mails even bittorent). This is basically the most wired phone ever.
- Supports miniSD cards for external storage. With the ability to play any music and most video formats, this is basically a PMP with unlimited disk space.
Other features such as USB-on-the-go (allows you to connect usb devices such as keyboards or hard drives), TV out, 2.0 megapixel camera, and even a VGA screen is available on these smartphones.
If you consider the fact that the first O2 XDA is still extremely popular today with its upgradable OS and expandable external storage space using SD cards, it makes you wonder about the redundant iPhone. |
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demaratus
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Location: Searching for a heart of gold, and I'm gettin' old
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Dopod products are good. Very popular in Taiwan, and some places in Europe. Their phone or pda phone is really nothing like the iphone at all. They are different in a number of ways. There is a linux based phone that is much more like the iphone in terms of design and functionality it is called the open moko phone http://www.openmoko.org/ . The moko looks sweet! |
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DCJames

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Those Dopod phones look nice.
What options are available in Kore if we want a phone with all these functions??
Korean phones are SO LAME compared to what's out there. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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DCJames wrote: |
Those Dopod phones look nice.
What options are available in Kore if we want a phone with all these functions??
Korean phones are SO LAME compared to what's out there. |
You can take a look at this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_KE850
http://www.pradaphonebylg.com/
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# Capacitive Touch Screen
# Music Player (MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, RA)
# Music Multitasking (Messaging)
# Video Player (MPEG4, H.263, H.264)
# Adobe Flash UI
# Document Viewer (ppt, doc, xls, pdf, txt )
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This is the phone Apple is emulating BTW.
Saw a guy playing with one yesterday on the subway. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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And that is
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United Kingdom: Currently available for free with new sign up on T-Mobile/Orange/O2. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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rocklee wrote: |
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This is the phone Apple is emulating BTW.
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iPhone controversy
According to reports, LG Electronics is accusing Apple of stealing the concept of its much-hyped iPhone from LG�s own Prada model.
Woo-Young Kwak, head of LG Mobile Handset R&D Center, said at a press conference,
�We consider that Apple copied Prada phone after the design was unveiled when it was presented in the iF Design Award and won the prize in September 2006. We take that to mean 'Apple stole our idea'.�[3]
Though Apple�s iPhone and LG�s Prada were launched a few weeks apart, LG released the design and concept about a year before Apple did,[4] and claims that "Apple has stolen the concept and ideas of the Prada phone".[5] Now LG has publicly stated that Apple copied theirs. There was reported speculation that Apple Inc. saw pictures of Prada around photo sharing websites, thus, launched their iPhone a week early. It has been reported that LG may file a lawsuit[5]; however, there is no case taking place yet.
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unplugged_boy
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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meh...
i`d rather pick up the nokia n95. it might not look as sexy as the iphone. but it uses quad gsm, has a zeiss 5mp camera, GPS, a full fledged multimedia player and you can pick one up today!
apple and its proprietary software like itunes is reason enough NOT to buy the iphone. |
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thekingofdisco

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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A friend of mine has a prada lg phone, and it is horrible to use. It takes a few years to send a txt message, the touch (finger/pen) screen does not work very well as one has to write very slowly for it to recognise what one is attempting to write. If the apple phone is in fact anything close to the prada phone - I will be staying far, far away. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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That is what I would expect of a device not geared for writing on. If the Prada phone isn't good at it then I don't expect the iPhone to be as well. |
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seoulman1

Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Location: Jamsil
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:01 am Post subject: |
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cangel wrote: |
My Japanese phone is nearly 2 years old and can do everything the iphone can do and it has a VGA display, better camera, internal gyroscope (for real coold games like wii), facial recognition for security, internal GPS (which helps when using the startchart) and much much more... That being said, the memory on my Japanese phone doesn't come close to the 4 or 8GB offered by the iphone but it does have a mini sd (I'm using a 2GB mini sd now). The Japanese phones are just far and away the best phones in the world. |
Im heading for Tokyo soon. If I buy a phone there will I be able to use it in Korea and Australia? |
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cangel

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:23 am Post subject: |
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The newer Sofbank phones have been designed NOT to be used for global roaming (a step backwards) because of people attempting to unlock the phones. The 904SH, my old phone, does have global roaming and works just fine here in Korea (roaming). Unless you can unlock the phone, you're out of luck. They're tough nuts to crack. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: |
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One phone to rule them all. Bigger is better.
GSM, color screen, predictive text input. What else could you want? |
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cmr
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
One phone to rule them all. Bigger is better.
GSM, color screen, predictive text input. What else could you want? |
A smaller one!  |
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