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Lie Bot
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| Pligganease wrote: |
| Some people, like many of the people that throw out the names of the neo-hippie/quasi-socialist authors listed before as well as the authors themselves, just want to see the United States go down in flames. |
I heard that Chomsky is saying that he thinks the holocost was just American propaganda these days but I'm not sure. Disgusting.
Anyway I think I agree with most of the other things. Except that It seems to me that most liberals want our boys to die for the reasons you said. Bottom line is, if America is going to stay ahead in the 21st century, we need to have a tight rain on the middle east. That doesn't come easily and is going to take a long time and a lot of brave sacrifice from our boys.It's not going to happen if the looney left keeps crying about it. |
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safeblad
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: |
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I heard that Chomsky is saying that he thinks the holocost was just American propaganda these days but I'm not sure. Disgusting.
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Lie Bot
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:12 am Post subject: |
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I heard that Chomsky is saying that he thinks the holocost was just American propaganda these days but I'm not sure. Disgusting.
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Does George Soros pay you to post here or something? |
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safeblad
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| Lie Bot wrote: |
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I heard that Chomsky is saying that he thinks the holocost was just American propaganda these days but I'm not sure. Disgusting.
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Does George Soros pay you to post here or something? |
i heard he does these days but I'm not sure. Disgusting. |
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Lie Bot
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| safeblad wrote: |
| Lie Bot wrote: |
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| Lie Bot wrote: |
I heard that Chomsky is saying that he thinks the holocost was just American propaganda these days but I'm not sure. Disgusting.
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Does George Soros pay you to post here or something? |
i heard he does these days but I'm not sure. Disgusting. |
I don't get it. But why so defensive? Huh?
ok I haven't been able to find for sure about Chomsky denying the holocost but it's a fact that he was against America in WW2 and in Vietnam and that he is friends with Ugo Chavez. I think some of the better educated posters like Gopher can confirm. |
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Alias
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Chomsky was against the US in WWII?
As for Vietnam he was right. |
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Alias
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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1)The bombing wasn't carried out by AQ
2)The terroists said it was revenge for Spanish troops in Iraq
3)The Spanish people made the right decision by kicking out their poddle government |
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I skipped over some of this but Gopher's still right on the money. Leftists are traiters for the most part and they've got to think more about what they say. It's just not American to talk that way about us or at least not the America I know. I don't agree with Ann Coulter all the time but she had the right idea about this when she said "Liberals become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy. " (she's hot too and what have you got liberal? Michael Moore hahahaha!!!) |
Ann Coulter is hot??  She has man hands and an adams apple. Not for me thanks.
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People who hate American should just SHUT UP!!!!
p.s. hey liberal if you don't like it why don't you go live in Iran? Let's see your freedom of speech under the SHAH!! |
The Shah??????
How old are you?
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freethought
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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no, chomsky is not a holocaust denier. This is one of the longest running conservative disinformation lines of the last two decades. The origin of it comes from his having testified at a trial of a holocaust denier. He was a defense witness, and testified that though the man was wrong, repugnant and a bigot, society should not practice censorship.
When you say you 'hear' this, where the F are you 'hearing it,' exactly? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Chomsky was against the US in WWII?
As for Vietnam he was right. |
what was the difference between Vietnam & Korea?
Even though you love to blast the US the fact is you are in Korea and a beneficiary of US intervention. 
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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1)The bombing wasn't carried out by AQ
2)The terroists said it was revenge for Spanish troops in Iraq
3)The Spanish people made the right decision by kicking out their poddle government |
Did you interview all of them?
Where did they get the training?
Why did the become militants in the first place? You think these people were regular guys until the US invaded?
The Spanish people gave in to the terrorists.
Anyway I am contesting your interpretation of the facts.
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The alleged perpetrators were Islamic extremists, mostly of North African origin, some with links to Al Qaeda. Spanish nationals who sold the explosives to the terrorists were also arrested.[
It is the only Islamist terrorist act in history, according to the European Strategic Intelligence And Security Center, where non-Muslims collaborated with Muslims.[19]
The official investigation by the Spanish Judiciary determined the attacks were directed by an al-Qaeda inspired terrorist cell.[Direct al-Qaeda participation has not been established |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_March_2004_Madrid_attacks
Futhermore you will find that some of the attackers were members of the Moroccan Combat group which is an Al Qaeda franchise .
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he Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group, which authorities said played a part in the train bombings. The group was also blamed for the 2003 Casablanca bombings. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4899544.stm
Anyway Bathism , Khomenism , and Al Qaedism and all of the similar ideologies are not defensive they are offensive.
You ought to read something more than the ravings of Justin Raimondo. |
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Alias
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Alias wrote: |
1)The bombing wasn't carried out by AQ
2)The terroists said it was revenge for Spanish troops in Iraq
3)The Spanish people made the right decision by kicking out their poddle government |
Did you interview all of them? |
Nope, and neither did you. All I have to go by are the facts as they relate to this case.
Prosecutors claim Youssef Belhadj is the man seen in a video found near a Madrid mosque two days after the train bombings. The man in the video says the attacks - which killed 191 people and injured more than 1,800 - were revenge for the presence of Spanish troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/2/16/105312.shtml?s=os
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Where did they get the training?
Why did the become militants in the first place? You think these people were regular guys until the US invaded? |
No I don't. I am just talking about why they carried out the attack and what information we have on it. The only Euro countries in which terrorist attacks have taken place are Spain and Britain. Countries that did not participate in the Iraq War have not been attacked.
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The Spanish people gave in to the terrorists. |
The Spanish people kicked out a government that forced their country into an illegal war that they wanted nothing to do with. Spanish civilians were killed as a result of their participation. They did the right thing. |
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Alias
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee"]
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Chomsky was against the US in WWII?
As for Vietnam he was right. |
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what was the difference between Vietnam & Korea? |
South Korea had UN monitored elections. Kim Sung-Il refused and crushed any oppostion. Eventually the North invaded the South and the UN supported the liberation from communist forces with over 15 nations involded. Yes, I know that the US was the biggest contributor by far.
In Southern Vietnam Diem refused to hold elections because support for the Communists were too strong. Vietnam was also seen as a war to overthrow colonial powers in the continuing occupation of the country by foreign forces. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Nope, and neither did you. All I have to go by are the facts as they relate to this case.
Prosecutors claim Youssef Belhadj is the man seen in a video found near a Madrid mosque two days after the train bombings. The man in the video says the attacks - which killed 191 people and injured more than 1,800 - were revenge for the presence of Spanish troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/2/16/105312.shtml?s=os |
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One of them.
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| No I don't. I am just talking about why they carried out the attack and what information we have on it. The only Euro countries in which terrorist attacks have taken place are Spain and Britain. Countries that did not participate in the Iraq War have not been attacked |
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Not yet. What do you think the Morrocon combat group is about? You think were it not for the Iraq war they would just stay to themselves?
And then there was the Bali bombing which was directed at Australia
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| The Spanish people kicked out a government that forced their country into an illegal war that they wanted nothing to do with. Spanish civilians were killed as a result of their participation. They did the right thing |
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They still gave into the terrorists.
The war was not illegal cause Saddam never gave up his war. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Alias"]
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Alias wrote: |
Chomsky was against the US in WWII?
As for Vietnam he was right. |
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what was the difference between Vietnam & Korea? |
South Korea had UN monitored elections. Kim Sung-Il refused and crushed any oppostion. Eventually the North invaded the South and the UN supported the liberation from communist forces with over 15 nations involded. Yes, I know that the US was the biggest contributor by far.
In Southern Vietnam Diem refused to hold elections because support for the Communists were too strong. Vietnam was also seen as a war to overthrow colonial powers in the continuing occupation of the country by foreign forces. |
At the time of the Korean war Kim Il Sung probably had more support than any South Korean leader within the whole country. In fact South Korean communists had a strong following within the South
The Korean war and the Vietnam war were more or less the same thing. And it is funny that the Korean intervention is seen as good and the Vietnam war is seen as bad.
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| The Korean War also proved the tenacity and skill of the Communist Asian militaries, something that would be reaffirmed by the Vietnam War in the 1960s. In fact, remarkable similarities exist between the Korean War and the Vietnam War; from the US support of a dictatorial and corrupt anti-communist regime to its conception of communism as a monolithic entity, under which all communist nations were necessarily allies, rather than individuals to be dealt with separately. However, though those parallels, Vietnam era policy-makers did not apply the lessons of the Korean War to the Vietnam War. Rather, they did not seem to recognize those lessons as lessons at all, and repeated in the Vietnam War many of their previous mistakes. |
http://www.sparknotes.com/history/american/koreanwar/context.html
also see
http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/essays/comp/cw29vietnamkorea.htm |
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