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daz1979

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Gangwon-Do
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: Conversation books.... What do you use? And where to buy? |
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Hi,
I have been teaching without the aid of any books for the past 4 months and am now running out of ideas for what to teach. I spoke to my boss today and told him my concerns and stated that I would prefer to have structure to my lessons by having a book available to use for my classes instead of frantically searching the internet every evening/morning. My boss seems to be OK with this; however, he said we will look at it after the summer break. I can't wait that long as I'm running low on ideas and therefore I was wondering what books everyone uses in class.
Our school already uses Smart English; however, I'm not allowed to use these as they are for the K teachers only.
Also, I'm thinking of heading to Seoul to buy some books this weekend and wondered if anyone can recommend where to buy a decent English book or three.
Thanks in advance,
Daz
p.s I've never been to Seoul so directions would be a big bonus  |
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pest2

Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:20 am Post subject: |
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I got a book for my PS English summer camp because Im sick of making lesson plans all the time. Got it at Kyobo bookstore in Seoul (same bldg as China and Australia Embassy). They have many many Conversation books, but I got "real life stories". |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: |
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How old are your students? What is their level? How often do you see them? |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Before you start looking for a book for your students, try to get a look at a copy of Smart English. Notice what topics they cover then find a book which covers the same material but in a slightly different style (maybe different grammar, vocab, context). Whatever THEY'RE teaching, you teach the same thing the following week. The kids (I'm assuming that they're kids!) will feel "smart" because they've already covered the topic, but hopefully they won't be bored since the structure will be somewhat different. |
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daz1979

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Gangwon-Do
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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OiGirl wrote: |
How old are your students? What is their level? How often do you see them? |
Ages 8 - 13.
I see them everyday. |
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daz1979

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Gangwon-Do
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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pest2 wrote: |
I got a book for my PS English summer camp because Im sick of making lesson plans all the time. Got it at Kyobo bookstore in Seoul (same bldg as China and Australia Embassy). They have many many Conversation books, but I got "real life stories". |
Where is Kyobo? I've never been to Seoul before |
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pest2

Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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daz1979 wrote: |
pest2 wrote: |
I got a book for my PS English summer camp because Im sick of making lesson plans all the time. Got it at Kyobo bookstore in Seoul (same bldg as China and Australia Embassy). They have many many Conversation books, but I got "real life stories". |
Where is Kyobo? I've never been to Seoul before |
Get on the subway, go to Gwangwhamoon station. Dont remember the line. Its 1 stop from Jongno sam ga, though... When you get out of any exit, its a big bldg that says, Kyobo. Cant miss it. |
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peacemaker
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Bandi and Luni's also has a nice selection of English books. There are two locations I know of. One is in COEX mall (Samseong Stn.) and the other is inside of Jongak Stn. (Blue line). Good luck!
P.S. If you've lived in Korea for 4 months and haven't been to Seoul yet, you're missing out! |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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peacemaker wrote: |
Bandi and Luni's also has a nice selection of English books. There are two locations I know of. One is in COEX mall (Samseong Stn.) and the other is inside of Jongak Stn. (Blue line). Good luck!
P.S. If you've lived in Korea for 4 months and haven't been to Seoul yet, you're missing out! |
I was recently at the one in Jongak Station ... having been to a couple of other book shops before ... and was impressed with the range of what they had ... I found it well worth a look.
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rokricky
Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Location: Yongsan, Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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peacemaker wrote: |
Bandi and Luni's also has a nice selection of English books. There are two locations I know of. One is in COEX mall (Samseong Stn.) and the other is inside of Jongak Stn. (Blue line). Good luck!
P.S. If you've lived in Korea for 4 months and haven't been to Seoul yet, you're missing out! |
Try close to 3 years and never been to Seoul. But uh, any one wanna join me here in Jeollabuk, I'm happy to play host. You could sample the local delicacies: raw octopus, fish paste, fermented skate, country steamed chicken, fresh and killed on premises served with a side of raw chicken breast. Sound appetizing? |
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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Location: at my wit's end
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Don't write off the internet as a source of teaching material! Sites like www.esnips.com -- search for ESL, ddeubel's got lots of stuff you can use.
In this case, I think it would do you well to plan out a curriculum--nothing too inflexible, but somewhat structured so you have a general idea of what you're teaching every week (think of planning in terms of weeks). For example, Week 1: Monday-Wednesday, talk about rooms in the house, furniture, etc. Thursday review, songs, etc, and Friday pronunciation exercises, more review, games, etc...just thinking off the top of my head here...
In my case, I was told that everything is up to me, and my boss needed a plan for the last two months of school for all of my classes. Rather than freak out about it, I just looked in the table of contents of some beginner books (which luckily I brought with me) for topics to plan my courses. I use the same topics for both levels but alter the structures/vocab that I'm teaching. Works like a charm. The only problem is that it's taking longer than I expected to get through the material, but I guess that's public school for you! |
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daz1979

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Gangwon-Do
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:31 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Jizzo T. Clown"]Don't write off the internet as a source of teaching material! Sites like www.esnips.com -- search for ESL, ddeubel's got lots of stuff you can use.quote]
I was on that site last night, most of the material seemed a little advanced for my kids or required the use of a computer for powerpoint (which my hagwon doesn't have in the class) I didn't view it all but will have another look tomorrow. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:45 am Post subject: |
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[quote="daz1979"]
Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
Don't write off the internet as a source of teaching material! Sites like www.esnips.com -- search for ESL, ddeubel's got lots of stuff you can use.quote]
I was on that site last night, most of the material seemed a little advanced for my kids or required the use of a computer for powerpoint (which my hagwon doesn't have in the class) I didn't view it all but will have another look tomorrow. |
I assume you are in a hakwon and NOT a public school?
Not having a computer and big screen TV in the class is a bit of a drag BUT...
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=91208&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
Scroll down to my post. There are a few links there that may be of some help (elementary 3,4,5,6 grade stuff). |
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meangradin

Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't you use the topics for each unit from Smart English? I know you are not allowed to teach the books, but wouldn't it make sense to have conversation classes that reinforce the material they study. I really like the Smart English books, but they really have no speaking component, so it would be perfect if you had conversations to go over and use the vocabulary and grammar structures they have been studying. However, what level are you teaching? I don't have conversation classes with any student who is below SE 3.1 as it is a waste of time. That is not to say that I dont talk to the younger students, but it a much shorter and simpler class than a true "conversation" class.
As I said earlier, SE is a great system for developing listening skills, but is lacking in developing conversation skills, so it would be beneficial, not to mention, sound pedegogy, to supplement the deficit with your class. |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: |
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meangradin wrote: |
Why don't you use the topics for each unit from Smart English? I know you are not allowed to teach the books, but wouldn't it make sense to have conversation classes that reinforce the material they study. I really like the Smart English books, but they really have no speaking component, so it would be perfect if you had conversations to go over and use the vocabulary and grammar structures they have been studying. However, what level are you teaching? I don't have conversation classes with any student who is below SE 3.1 as it is a waste of time. That is not to say that I dont talk to the younger students, but it a much shorter and simpler class than a true "conversation" class.
As I said earlier, SE is a great system for developing listening skills, but is lacking in developing conversation skills, so it would be beneficial, not to mention, sound pedegogy, to supplement the deficit with your class. |
Ummmm...didn't I suggest that already?
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Before you start looking for a book for your students, try to get a look at a copy of Smart English. Notice what topics they cover then find a book which covers the same material but in a slightly different style (maybe different grammar, vocab, context). Whatever THEY'RE teaching, you teach the same thing the following week. The kids (I'm assuming that they're kids!) will feel "smart" because they've already covered the topic, but hopefully they won't be bored since the structure will be somewhat different. |
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