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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: "Seagull Dad" Reply with quote

My friend mentioned this Korean term other day. A father with family abroad (usually America) who still lives and works in Korea is called a "seagull dad".
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not seagull. More like a wild goose.

In Korean, it's called 기러기 아빠, and the translated meaning is like 'orphan father', because he's basically a money making machine, but he can't see his children and his wife.
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Yo!Chingo



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's really sad isn't it. I know a guy in that situation. He said it's for his family, but a small part of me wonders if he just wants to live like a single guy again. Think about it. No wife or kids to take care of except for financially and he can do whatever he wants.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most dads don't like this. Men here are coddled by women their whole lives. Most can't cook, do laundry, etc.
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robot



Joined: 07 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's an article i used with some of my advanced FLHS kids -- a good read on the subject:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A59355-2005Jan8?language=printer
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seagull? Last year it was "goose", as in "girogi nampyeon"- husband who's family separates for years at a time in order to make money or get an education abroad.

Too big a sacrifice to make I think. I mean what married couple on earth agrees to be apart for 3 years for the sake of learning english in a foreign country?

Koreans are missing the point. Its not about living a life of misery and sacrificing everything valuable, its about enjoying all those things before you get too old to do so.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
Not seagull. More like a wild goose.

In Korean, it's called 기러기 아빠, and the translated meaning is like 'orphan father', because he's basically a money making machine, but he can't see his children and his wife.


Ah thank you. My friend has been living in the states for a long, long time. I think her Korean is kinda iffy these days.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
Most dads don't like this. Men here are coddled by women their whole lives. Most can't cook, do laundry, etc.


That too Smile But I have to say, Koreans really, really don't like being alone, away from family. Family is their sense of security.
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kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is kinda sad. I first heard of this on that SBS English Craze program last Saturday, the "lonely bird father". It's not only with Korean fathers but I've heard it's common among Japanese and Taiwanese fathers as well. A few I know personally. The ones I've met don't make a big deal out of it and simply accept it as their responsiblity and fate. A friend's father worked overseas in China and sent every bit of his money to his family in Taiwan. He later died in a building fire.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
Most dads don't like this. Men here are coddled by women their whole lives. Most can't cook, do laundry, etc.


That too Smile But I have to say, Koreans really, really don't like being alone, away from family. Family is their sense of security.


Hence the astonished look of horror when you announce that you are going to the park by yourself.

"I'm going to the park now"
Alone?"
Yes".
You are going ALONE!!!???
ALONE?
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