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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: can someone please check out my contract |
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| i posted it in the contract sticky. i'm really considering this position since its in Seocho-gu and sounds like a nice school. No idea what to look for in the contract. |
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Jizzo T. Clown
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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buffygrrl1--
What's their definition of 1 teaching hour? I'd check on that. It looks like a LOT of work to be honest. "The teacher can be assigned the intensive class?" I think it's a safe bet you will be assigned the intensive class.
If it's your first time teaching, you're going to be working your a s s off planning that many classes. At least they give you training, even if it is at half-pay.
I've never worked at a hogwan in Korea, but did in China, and if they're anything alike, the school will try to squeeze every class out of you they can, and do their best to use "creative accounting" to avoid paying overtime.
I'm sure that after a year there you'll be a much better teacher, fwiw. |
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| its 40minutes and you have a co-teachers which i think is nice so you arent teaching by yourself. you are both teaching. you only work 9:00-3:30 and plan other things till 5:30 for the next day. is that really that bad? |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Are you considering a Public School Position.
Having read some of your posts,
I think the Publics might be a better start for you.
You can research some of the Academies while you are working in the Public Schools.
There are other advantages to Public school jobs,
daytime hours being one.
(This is an official nonoffensive post) |
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| yes i did get offered public school positions but they are in little towns in the middle of nowhere. Seocho-gu sounds nice and having a co-teacher is sort of like a public school |
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Jizzo T. Clown
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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E. Work Schedule
The workweek runs from Monday through Friday in monthly periods. The teacher�s schedule will be assigned by the Institute Director. The regular class begins at 9:30 and finishes at 3:00 p.m.. Additionally the teacher can be assigned the intensive class for Monday, Wednesday and Friday, it begins at 3:10 and finishes at 5:20 pm (In case of Tuesday and Thursday, They begin at 3:10 and finish at 5:20 pm). The teacher will be expected in the institute by 9:00 a.m. and leave 5:30 p.m., Monday through Friday, according to Section C
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This just looks sketchy to me, but then, I'm a pessimist. I'd guess that they use 40 minutes as an hour when it's convenient--if not, they'd use 60 minutes as an hour.
They said that anything over 28 hours (not teaching hours) per week is overtime.
On a positive note...28 teaching hours / week is about 19 real hours, but this does seem a little too good to be true for a hogwan!
Again, I'd be really clear on how they figure overtime and exactly how often they expect you to do these intensive classes. If they try to confuse you (they can't give a straight answer), it's a red flag.
edit: Why did they mention "In the case of Tuesday and Thursday?"
Last edited by Jizzo T. Clown on Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:44 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| buffygrrl1 wrote: |
| yes i did get offered public school positions but they are in little towns in the middle of nowhere. Seocho-gu sounds nice and having a co-teacher is sort of like a public school |
I heard Chang-won is looking for teachers. I'm in Masan which is right next to Chang-won. Chang-won isn't small but it's not huge either you get salary plus I think 200,000w (not sure what the breakdown is) because it's not a huge city. You probably have to teach between two schools. I have two schools right next to each other.
Sometimes the small towns are not so small. Masan is considered small but they have a population of half a million. Changwon is a newer city, it's alittle more modern than Masan.
PM me if you would like to contact a local recruiter. |
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| i really want to be in seoul. i like go out A LOT. |
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Jizzo T. Clown
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Then by all means, take the job! |
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buffygrrl1
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Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| so other than those things you listen theres nothing illegal about it? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| buffygrrl1 wrote: |
| yes i did get offered public school positions but they are in little towns in the middle of nowhere. Seocho-gu sounds nice and having a co-teacher is sort of like a public school |
co-teachers in a kindy mean you share 2 classes (or more).
You teach class A for 40 minutes. The K teacher is in class B.
Then you switch.
They are NOT in the class with you at a Korean kindy.
With their contract and schedule you will be teaching over 40 classes PER WEEK + 3 additional hours of manditory prep time EVERY DAY.
(28 hours (not classes) teaching + 15 hours prep = 43 hours.
+ special events and saturdays + prep for those events at $0 pay.
Up to 4 hours of forced overtime per week at the schools discretion.
I love to work with kids but that is an oppressive workload.
If you quit (even one day early - you have to repay ALL the airfare.
In case the Teacher fails to complete the contract, the teacher shall pay back to the Institute the total amount of the air tickets, or institute may deduct the amount of airfare from the teacher�s salary.
- (what's with that?)
Find a job with GEPIK and cut your ESL teeth in a less oppressive venue.
just my humble opinion.
Last edited by ttompatz on Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:18 am; edited 1 time in total |
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paquebot
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
Location: Northern Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
| I heard Chang-won is looking for teachers. [...] PM me if you would like to contact a local recruiter. |
I sent you a PM about this, if your offer is open to others. At least, I assume I sent you a PM, since there's no description on what makes the Outbox and the Sentbox any different.  |
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